Selling Meat door to door?

[Average Joe]

This just seems a bit odd to me, but this morning was the second time this month that someone came to my door trying to sell me meat products from the back of their truck? refrigerated or not, just seems weird.

Anyone buy stuff from these guys?

[Dawn]

I wonder if it's the same guy that comes to my place. It's a black guy that drives around asking if I want to buy meat but I always say "no." It seems weird to me too.

[Average Joe]

Sounds like the same guy. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/yes.gif

[Nascar8Fan]

I used to have that service when I lived down South. He came every 3 months and we bought enough meats to fill the freezer. He had many types of steak, roasts, chicken, chicken fingers, variety of fish, ribs, pork chops, ect. They were really good. Each were indivually vaccuum packed so I made them as I needed them. It was alot cheaper to buy from them in bulk then it is to buy from the grocery stores.

[allsierra123]

no different than the schwan man.LOL I would buy them from him but he never comes into our complex.I guess the gate is always closed.

[Nascar8Fan]

I have seen the Schwan truck around town alot. How are their meats? Do they have a good selection? Do they have more than just meats?

Originally posted by allsierra123:
no different than the schwan man.LOL I would buy them from him but he never comes into our complex.I guess the gate is always closed.

[Dodgergirl]

Schwans in general is good, but I don't reccommend their meat. Go online & order, he delivers about every two weeks. Their site is very informative & easy to navigate. I keep a standing order which I edit according to what I need.
There's no way I can get ice cream home without melting in the summer, so having it come to the door frozen is great. http://www.schwans.com/
And, AllSierra, tell him the secret gate code so he can get in whenever he delivers. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/wink3.gif

[BGW]

In the past, I have seen the non-Schwans meat delivery guys pulled over and cited for no licence to sell the meat and usually for a plethora of other violations as well.

We use Schwans quite a bit. I have no complaints about their meats. We used a ham from them for Thanksgiving and everyone thought it quite good.

I tend to buy the individually vac-pak stuff directly from the butcher/packing plant (Richwood Meats) down in Merced, but I think the Meat Market in Fresno does the same thing. Going this route, like Nascar said, way undercuts the prices in the grocery stores. and the vac-pak keeps the meat with out freezer burn.

[monkey]

I don't like solicitors of any kind bothering me at home, so when the meat guy come, I tell him I'm a vegetarian. He leaves pretty quick and doesn't come back for many months!

[Ironhorse]

Originally posted by allsierra123:
no different than the schwan man.LOL I would buy them from him but he never comes into our complex.I guess the gate is always closed.

If it's at the condos I think it is, it's to help keep out door to door salespeople. Which is very nice most of the time.

[Ironhorse]

Originally posted by bgirlsworld:
In the past, I have seen the non-Schwans meat delivery guys pulled over and cited for no licence to sell the meat and usually for a plethora of other violations as well.

We use Schwans quite a bit. I have no complaints about their meats. We used a ham from them for Thanksgiving and everyone thought it quite good.

I tend to buy the individually vac-pak stuff directly from the butcher/packing plant (Richwood Meats) down in Merced, but I think the Meat Market in Fresno does the same thing. Going this route, like Nascar said, way undercuts the prices in the grocery stores. and the vac-pak keeps the meat with out freezer burn.

You do have to watch the door to door meat salesmen. Sometimes the meat isn't good, may not have been packaged under sanitary conditions, and they tend not to have city/county business licenses, or state ones. The meats may not be kept at the right temps when they are peddaling them door to door, increasing the likelihood of e-coli bacteria. If a salesman shows up at my door (which doesn't happen often unless they sneak in the complex behind someone with the gate code), first thing I ask is, "do you have a business license, a local one? If they don't they disappear REAL fast. I just figure, they aren't contributing anything to our area, just taking money out if they don't have a license like the other local business people.

[allsierra123]

Originally posted by Dodgergirl:
Schwans in general is good, but I don't reccommend their meat. Go online & order, he delivers about every two weeks. Their site is very informative & easy to navigate. I keep a standing order which I edit according to what I need.
There's no way I can get ice cream home without melting in the summer, so having it come to the door frozen is great. http://www.schwans.com/
And, AllSierra, tell him the secret gate code so he can get in whenever he delivers. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/wink3.gif

That gate code is not so secret everyone in town knows what it is. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/laugh.gif

[Californee Girl]

A while back I had a cute blonde guy come to my door. With this weird smirk he told me that he had some meat to sell and would I like to see it. At first I thought it was a joke. I was looking for the hidden cameras. He was serious. I told him that I was vegetarian (Im not), and he said to me, "We have fish too". http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/laugh.gif

[Meat Man]

Hello, I was just surfing the net here tonight, and I found your site:)

I see you guys are talking about door to door meat guys.

I am a "meat man" in that I LOVE steak!!

I buy from a local guy here in PA, and I never had a problem. He only sells me Prime Beef, and I get 20 cuts for just $4.00 a cut. You can't beat that deal anywhere.

My wife at first thought I was crazy for buying it, let alone eating it, but I grew up in Philly. In philly we alsways got a guy coming around selling things that "fall of a truck".

I'm happy I tried it, but I tried it from this other company called US BEEF. NEVER AGAIN!!

I stick to the guy I know, and I see him about twice a year or so.
I'm not giving the name of the place because I don't want to upset anyone here. I don't want you to think Im advertiseing for free or something. If you want the name Pm me. I know they ship out nation wide.

[CatdaBrat]

While I'm sure there are good experiences with some meat sellers, I sure haven't had any. One guy who drove into my yard just wouldn't take no for an answer and proceeded to unload just about every box on the truck. He looked seedy, rough and "inmatey" and acted like it, too. I was glad my son was around, because the dude was REALLY pushy and even walked into the house uninvited, claiming he needed a table to display the products. I was thinking about telling my son (whom they didn't see) to call the cops.

I kept telling him no, I didn't want to buy anything, but he and his partner kept unloading huge boxes of stuff. When I still wouldn't show any interest, the guy got extremely mad and rude and started acting like it was my fault he went to all that trouble for nothing. His partner seemed more normal and apologized.

The next time some idiot meat-seller drives in and tries to be rude, pushy and intimidating he will be the one wondering if danger is afoot.

[Summer]

Cat, how frightening. I would have unleashed my big Aussie on them. Actually they never would have gotten to the front door! He is very protective. Get yourself a couple of big doggies!

[Meat Man]

Cat, how frightening. I would have unleashed my big Aussie on them. Actually they never would have gotten to the front door! He is very protective. Get yourself a couple of big doggies!


Yea, so that way the steak salesmen can own your house after he sues you:yes:

[Summer]

Well, let's see. If I have a dog in an enclosed yard which leads up to my front door and you take it upon yourself to enter that arena and then "push" yourself into my home against my wishes to sell your wares and my dog attacks you - just what do you think the outcome will be?

[LU]

the meat man would win!
Some guy cut down my dad's fencing that had no tresspassing signs every 10 feet even across the creeks, up the creeks and on almost every tree besides that. This fool rode his dirt bike up into the creek and hit a huge water pipe spanning the creek and was injured. He sued my dad, the adjoining railrod and the county and won even tho he was the one that trespassed and destroyed property (the fence).
You read about all these guys that get injured while trying to break into your house and win their lawsuits. It's a fact of life, and since that woman burnt herself when She set her hot McDonald's coffee between her legs while driving and burnt herself and won a kajillion dollars, it's done nothing but become worse.

[CatdaBrat]

Yeah, that "hot coffee burned me" lawsuit was incredible. Hard to believe she won that!!! Taking into consideration that she DID win it, she probably would have won a similar lawsuit if her coffee hadn't been hot enough! Emotional duress and all, poor thing.....

[Kim]

I think I've posted this before, but I will again because I'm tired of people putting down that poor old woman. When you all have seen third degree burns in person, get back to me and tell me she got too much money. I have, and she didn't. I know that frivolous lawsuits often get paid, but this was not frivolous. This is a long article, but please read it through.

http://www.centerjd.org/free/mythbusters-free/MB_mcdonalds.htm

The “McDonald’s coffee” case. We have all heard it: a woman spills McDonald's coffee, sues and gets $3 million. Here are the facts of this widely misreported and misunderstood case:

Stella Liebeck, 79 years old, was sitting in the passenger seat of her grandson’s car having purchased a cup of McDonald’s coffee. After the car stopped, she tried to hold the cup securely between her knees while removing the lid. However, the cup tipped over, pouring scalding hot coffee onto her. She received third-degree burns over 16 percent of her body, necessitating hospitalization for eight days, whirlpool treatment for debridement of her wounds, skin grafting, scarring, and disability for more than two years.
Despite these extensive injuries, she offered to settle with McDonald’s for $20,000. However, McDonald’s refused to settle. The jury awarded Liebeck $200,000 in compensatory damages -- reduced to $160,000 because the jury found her 20 percent at fault -- and $2.7 million in punitive damages for McDonald’s callous conduct. (To put this in perspective, McDonald's revenue from coffee sales alone is in excess of $1.3 million a day.) The trial judge reduced the punitive damages to $480,000. Subsequently, the parties entered a post-verdict settlement. According to Stella Liebeck’s attorney, S. Reed Morgan, the jury heard the following evidence in the case:

By corporate specifications, McDonald's sells its coffee at 180 to 190 degrees Fahrenheit;


Coffee at that temperature, if spilled, causes third-degree burns (the skin is burned away down to the muscle/fatty-tissue layer) in two to seven seconds;


Third-degree burns do not heal without skin grafting, debridement and whirlpool treatments that cost tens of thousands of dollars and result in permanent disfigurement, extreme pain and disability of the victim for many months, and in some cases, years;


The chairman of the department of mechanical engineering and bio-mechanical engineering at the University of Texas testified that this risk of harm is unacceptable, as did a widely recognized expert on burns, the editor in chief of the leading scholarly publication in the specialty, the Journal of Burn Care and Rehabilitation;


McDonald's admitted that it has known about the risk of serious burns from its scalding hot coffee for more than 10 years -- the risk was brought to its attention through numerous other claims and suits, to no avail;

From 1982 to 1992, McDonald's coffee burned more than 700 people, many receiving severe burns to the genital area, perineum, inner thighs, and buttocks;


Not only men and women, but also children and infants, have been burned by McDonald's scalding hot coffee, in some instances due to inadvertent spillage by McDonald's employees;


At least one woman had coffee dropped in her lap through the service window, causing third-degree burns to her inner thighs and other sensitive areas, which resulted in disability for years;


Witnesses for McDonald's admitted in court that consumers are unaware of the extent of the risk of serious burns from spilled coffee served at McDonald's required temperature;


McDonald's admitted that it did not warn customers of the nature and extent of this risk and could offer no explanation as to why it did not.

McDonald's witnesses testified that it did not intend to turn down the heat -- As one witness put it: “No, there is no current plan to change the procedure that we're using in that regard right now;
McDonald's admitted that its coffee is “not fit for consumption” when sold because it causes severe scalds if spilled or drunk;
Liebeck's treating physician testified that her injury was one of the worst scald burns he had ever seen.
Morgan, The Recorder, September 30, 1994. Moreover, the Shriner’s Burn Institute in Cincinnati had published warnings to the franchise food industry that its members were unnecessarily causing serious scald burns by serving beverages above 130 degrees Fahrenheit.

In refusing to grant a new trial in the case, Judge Robert Scott called McDonald's behavior “callous.” Moreover, “the day after the verdict, the news media documented that coffee at the McDonald's in Albuquerque [where Liebeck was burned] is now sold at 158 degrees. This will cause third-degree burns in about 60 seconds, rather than in two to seven seconds [so that], the margin of safety has been increased as a direct consequence of this verdict.”

[CatdaBrat]

I guess it was bound to happen sooner or later, what with one billion cups of hot McDonald's coffee being sold per year. Now I understand there are warning labels so consumers can be better informed. Eating and drinking in a moving vehicle is difficult, at best.

[Yosemite_Wolf]

Remember now.. if you shoot someone on your own property... you had better make sure that his butt was IN your house and that he/she actually touched/hurt you. So if you shoot him/her on your front porch.. make sure you drag the body into the house and rake their fingernails down your chest then go out and sweep away the drag marks from dragging the body in!

And if you think this is funny? this was actual ACTUAL information given by a Monterey Co. Sheriff deputy to a friend of mine who lived WAY out by lake San Antonio. Strange how we can't even protect our own property! I have to keep my dogs in a pen so that they don't "accidently" eat any intruders.

[Meat Man]

Remember now.. if you shoot someone on your own property... you had better make sure that his butt was IN your house and that he/she actually touched/hurt you. So if you shoot him/her on your front porch.. make sure you drag the body into the house and rake their fingernails down your chest then go out and sweep away the drag marks from dragging the body in!

And if you think this is funny? this was actual ACTUAL information given by a Monterey Co. Sheriff deputy to a friend of mine who lived WAY out by lake San Antonio. Strange how we can't even protect our own property! I have to keep my dogs in a pen so that they don't "accidently" eat any intruders.


To a point I agree with you. We should be able to protect ourselves, but is some guy trying to make a living a threat? I have gained a deeper respect for my meat guy after reading what some of you have posted. I get a great deal from my guy, and would never dream of seeking my dogs on him ( I have 2 ). I hope he comes around soon, after reading how so many people don't have manners, I'm going to not just buy from him, but have a drink with the guy!!:)

[Summer]

To a point I agree with you. We should be able to protect ourselves, but is some guy trying to make a living a threat? I have gained a deeper respect for my meat guy after reading what some of you have posted. I get a great deal from my guy, and would never dream of seeking my dogs on him ( I have 2 ). I hope he comes around soon, after reading how so many people don't have manners, I'm going to not just buy from him, but have a drink with the guy!!:)

Yeah, he's a threat when he doesn't take no for an answer and walks into my house uninvited and uses my table to lay his meat on for display while I am telling him to get out! Someone that bold would give me pause to think what he might else be capable of doing. When I say no I mean no. And yes I would still sic (not seek) my dog on him. Heck, I would sic him myself. I could claim I did it from "mad cow disease" from tasting a sample of his wares. And as for manners - He doesn't have manners if he pushes after the person who says "no thank you". Hey why don't you post your address and if he comes around we'll just tell him to come to your place for meat sales and drinks! You could mix up a couple of "salty dogs" for him. And another thing - I would be skeptical of where exactly this meat is coming from. Does he just butcher up stuff in his garage?

[Nascar8Fan]

You go Summer!!!!!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: I have a few Boxers you could borrow too!

[jakobscalpel]

I think I've posted this before, but I will again because I'm tired of people putting down that poor old woman. When you all have seen third degree burns in person, get back to me and tell me she got too much money.

I've never seen a third degree burn in person, perhaps because I don't use my legs to hold scalding cups of coffee while trying to open their flimsy plastic lids. Unless this was the first cup of coffee she had ever consumed, she had to know how hot it was. Her mistake, her fault.

[oakhurstleaf]

Since the McDonalds coffee burn lady has come up...

I remember a true story that happened at a Marie Callendars....there was a fireplace in the waiting lobby and a young child burnt his hands when he pressed them up against the glass screen. Not 3rd degree burns, but still. Is it Marie Callendars fault or is it the child's or rather the parents who should've been supervising their child?

Danger is everywhere...common sense is not.

Should the good people who bring us a complimentary birthday cake with a candle and sing to us at a restaurant be held liable for Aunt Lucy's hair going up in smoke because she let her heavily hair-sprayed hair hit the candle's flame?

[Meat Man]

Yeah, he's a threat when he doesn't take no for an answer and walks into my house uninvited and uses my table to lay his meat on for display while I am telling him to get out! Someone that bold would give me pause to think what he might else be capable of doing. When I say no I mean no. And yes I would still sic (not seek) my dog on him. Heck, I would sic him myself. I could claim I did it from "mad cow disease" from tasting a sample of his wares. And as for manners - He doesn't have manners if he pushes after the person who says "no thank you". Hey why don't you post your address and if he comes around we'll just tell him to come to your place for meat sales and drinks! You could mix up a couple of "salty dogs" for him. And another thing - I would be skeptical of where exactly this meat is coming from. Does he just butcher up stuff in his garage?

Well no, thats not what I was talking about. Sure if the guy is a jerk and pushes himself in your home, then yea, I would be a little upset to say the lest. But this guy who comes around here is very nice, and give sme great stuff. He gets his meat from a company called Buckhead beef, and they are on the internet. This info is right on the box he sells. Buckhead seems to sell to alot of fancy places, so I know the meat is good. Sorry,,,,VERY good!!

Like I said, my wife thought I was crazy buying from a "meat man". Now she sees that only a fool would say no to him. She has two of our neighbors buying from this guy now, and her sister does also lol:)

[Kim]

I guess it was bound to happen sooner or later, what with one billion cups of hot McDonald's coffee being sold per year. Now I understand there are warning labels so consumers can be better informed. Eating and drinking in a moving vehicle is difficult, at best.

According to the article, the car was stopped when she tried to open the lid. And no, Jakobscalpel, we aren't always lucky enough to know how hot something is when we get it if it's handed to us and we didn't pour it ourselves. But, the jury did find her partially at fault and that was a good decision. But it wasn't entirely her fault; and no drink ever should be hot enough to put 3d degree burns on your legs. Did anyone stop to think what that would have done to her mouth and her esophagus?

[Kahlua Kid]

Did anyone stop to think what that would have done to her mouth and her esophagus?

That has always been my thought.

(Contributory negligence also, but that just doesn't count nowadays - everyone is supposed to protect us from ourselves. I'm amazed places like Yosemite don't have guard rails up everywhere along the roads and trails to stop us all from our own stupidity!)

[beautiful_mess38]

Summer I would like for that meat man to come to my house. Lets see, 110 lb black lab + meat man = dinner.

[CatdaBrat]

I had jumped to a generality without taking time to transition clearly, sorry. I meant that generally, it is not easy to eat and drink in a moving car, what with dealing with wrappers, cartons, dropped food, spills, etc. You should have seen me one time trying to eat hot wings and sushi! I had to clean the car out afterward.

[Dodgergirl]

Summer I would like for that meat man to come to my house. Lets see, 110 lb black lab + meat man = dinner.

Ahhh, Sammy would lick him to death, then beg for a rib eye.....Personally, I'd love to see a meat man in my driveway come Christmas morning.... ;)

[Meat Man]

Ahhh, Sammy would lick him to death, then beg for a rib eye.....Personally, I'd love to see a meat man in my driveway come Christmas morning.... ;)


???? You mean a Yosemite Forum Meat Man???:grin: