what's taking Jack in the Box so long?

[John @ 3300ft.]

Was wondering if any construction is going on lately at the JITB site...
Looks the same as about a month ago...

[Mysteefied]

It Doesn't look like theyve been doing much over there to me. I thought they were suppose to open mid June?

[Coldwolf]

I'll ask my friend, she's on the "JIB" "management team." Whatever the hell that is.

[Mibrew]

NO more Fast Foods, make it go away.....

[Yosemite Joy]

I thought they were supposed to open by the 4th of July. Oh well, maybe someone will go tear it down and claim it was all a joke. *fingers crossed*

[Mibrew]

I like your thinking Joy http://oakhurstforums.com/icon/yes.gif

[Yosemite Joy]

Where's Keith at? He seems to have the lowdown on everything going on in town...

[CatdaBrat]

The thing that bothers me about some of the new places opening up is the ingress/egress situation. Oakhurst seems to have severely outgrown its road infrastructure and we already have a bad enough problem trying to maneuver through town. Especially attempting left turns.

Tried to make a left turn out of Victoria Lane (over by Erna's) yesterday and go back toward Oakhurst and I must have sat there half an hour before there was a break in Highway 41 traffic from both directions. There was a long line of cars ahead of me trying it.

Over by Jack in the Box, I wonder how hard it's going to be to get in and out of there. I hate that whole section over there by Vons gas station. It is the "fender bender" (and worse) center of town.

And as far as traffic lights and stop signs go, it would really help if drivers actually paid attention to them. I am seeing red-light runners almost every time I drive through there. One time a week or so ago, four people drove through a red light, like a train. Also, I think a lot of drivers forgot the rules of four-way stops.

[BGW]

What is up with that intersection?(49 and Junction Drive-Von's)

Way back when...the booklet I read in order to get my driver's license, said that people going straight and turning right have the right-of-way at an intersection. And, yet, if I am turning left and wait for those turning right and going straight, they will sit there and wave me on through. All the while, the cars behind me get impatient.

I also seem to remember that same booklet stating when making a right turn to turn into the safest lane possible which is not always the outside lane. it truly is safer to turn inot the inner lane for left turning onto 41. Otherwise you may not get let in or you end up having to unsafely cut someone off.

And, yet, I can't begin to tell you how many times I have almost been broadsided by people turning left. It is always my stupidity or at least that is what the look on their faces says.

For some unknown mystery reason, people seem to forget all their driving rules and skills at that intersection! Perhaps, it is an alien controled area.

[Coldwolf]

I asked my JIB managemant team friend. The schedualed opening is Aug 1. It is supposted to be a "Mach8" store, whatever that means. She said it will have the latest and greatest that Jack has to offer.

[Sandman]

from http://www.jackinthebox.com

Jack in the Box Inc. is now offering a unique opportunity to partner with one of the most popular brands in the quick-serve restaurant industry. We're looking for franchise candidates that have the financial and operational wherewithal to develop multiple Jack in the Box® restaurant locations. Yes, this is your chance-in-a-lifetime to operate your very own Jack in the Box restaurant. With several brands under our belt, Jack in the Box Inc. is transitioning from a regional quick-serve chain to a national restaurant company and are seeking to increase our systemwide level of franchise-operated Jack in the Box restaurants from about 22 percent today to 35 percent. To achieve this goal, we are selling many existing company restaurants to franchisees and selling development agreements for new restaurants in underdeveloped areas. Interested in ditching your tie or stuffy power suit for a lei and mai tai? Or maybe a cool, yellow hat? Then check out the information posted here on our Web site, and contact us to learn more.

If you click on "Plans" you can see the floorplan... http://jackinthebox.com/franchise/siteplan.php?section=8

[Summer]

Well, I know this may not be popular but I am looking forward to Breakfast Jacks! I really like those things plus the ice cream shakes. Ooh, I can feel the lbs. creeping on already!
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[Sandman]

and i think breakfast is served all day... will they be open 24 hours?

[Mibrew]

You can move here to the Bay Area, we have one on every corner...

[Yosemite Joy]

Originally posted by Sandman:
and i think breakfast is served all day... will they be open 24 hours?

Ya, I saw a commercial.. you can eat anything on their menu all day... so hamburgers in the morning for breakfast, and breakfast in the evening for dinner...

[Newcomer]

All I can say is any new food palce up here is good news. I like more choices.

[Mibrew]

Alrighty then.. we'll put them all in front of your exit on 415 and then see if you'll like it, not only will you be picking up trash all day, but you'll have to dodge the cars going in and out of these Fast Food Restaurants, not to speak of the drive thru's...

One of the reasons to move out to Oakhurst was to get away from the traffic, crowds, and thousands of fast foods restuarants.

Within a mile of me I have 2 of every fast foods availiable, also a Costco, Target, Home Depot, Frys, Petco, Pet smart, K-mart, Kohls, 2 Orchard supply's, 3 Safeways, nobhill, 2 longs Drugs, Rite Aid, 2 Round tables, Chicago Pizza, Shakees, Best Buy, Circuit City, Sears, 2 Macy's, Fish Market, Armadilly Willies, Mr Chao's, Marie Calenders, Big lots, JC Pennys, Toys R Us, Ross, Sport Mart, Office Depot, and now there biulding a Lowes right down the street.

and by no means did I name them all, I think John could add a hundred more http://oakhurstforums.com/icon/yes.gif

But where does it stop?? Whats Progress?, and how far does progress go???

I would hate to see Oakhurst lose it Country/Mountain type appeal, if it already has started to lose it now!!!
I love it here, so where does it stop?

How many fast foods do you really need for more choices?

[Yosemite Joy]

It will never stop..

Now Coarsegold is really getting in on the "action" of progess. Pretty soon this place will be a mini? metropolis.. and we will have four lanes running up and down the mountain. We will have ruined our town, our small-town feel, our escape, along with Yosemite.

The appeal to these small towns up in the mountains is obvious. But money talks, bull**** walks and I tell ya.. the people who will buy up Murray Ranch, the land by O'Neals, and the land for sale in Coarsegold are going to do it with the thought of a buck or two (millions).

Think we have water problems now? Think we have traffic issues, or gang problems. Come talk to the "locals" in about 20 years. This is only the beginning to Suburbia Oakhurst/Fresno.

/Doomsday

[Mibrew]

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[Dodgergirl]

Brew, having a bad day? http://oakhurstforums.com/icon/wink3.gif

I, too, had all of that when I was in L.A. & now can't even have a pizza delivered. http://oakhurstforums.com/icon/laugh.gif

Personally, a fast food place that I might actually eat at is going to be a nice addition. Won't eat at McDonalds, don't really care for Carl's & since someone told me about the maggot issue at KFC, I really can't stomach their place.
No comment on Taco Bell, but the kids like it..

And, sometime in the near future there probably will be something put on the 415 cutoff. Oh well, that's progress for ya....

I think it's funny that we, (the people living up here) consider a new business "bad" or "unnecessary" if it doesn't fit our personal criteria. If WE like it, then it must be good.

Example....I hate the new Starbucks, But am very happy about Jamba Juice. Like we NEED another Coffee Place... (I still go to Yosemite Coffee)
Not hypocritical, just the truth.

As for trash, the road near my place (10 or so miles from town) is littered with 12 packs and trash from Wendys, Taco Bell, all of them... almost every weekend. If people are gonna throw it out, they're gonna throw it out. I don't think there's a Wendy's within 40 miles of my place.... http://oakhurstforums.com/icon/shout.gif

Progress is apparently what it's all about....When I was a kid I lived on a ranch which was bought from us and the Northridge Mall was built on the land. My corrals were where Sears now stands. Sure, I don't want a bunch of crap buildings built in town, but it's gonna happen. Just like the real locals didn't want all of us Tech Hermits coming up here & buying their land...Now THEY have a reason to be pissed. http://oakhurstforums.com/icon/laugh.gif

Originally posted by Mibrew:
Alrighty then.. we'll put them all in front of your exit on 415 and then see if you'll like it, not only will you be picking up trash all day, but you'll have to dodge the cars going in and out of these Fast Food Restaurants, not to speak of the drive thru's...

One of the reasons to move out to Oakhurst was to get away from the traffic, crowds, and thousands of fast foods restuarants.

Within a mile of me I have 2 of every fast foods availiable, also a Costco, Target, Home Depot, Frys, Petco, Pet smart, K-mart, Kohls, 2 Orchard supply's, 3 Safeways, nobhill, 2 longs Drugs, Rite Aid, 2 Round tables, Chicago Pizza, Shakees, Best Buy, Circuit City, Sears, 2 Macy's, Fish Market, Armadilly Willies, Mr Chao's, Marie Calenders, Big lots, JC Pennys, Toys R Us, Ross, Sport Mart, Office Depot, and now there biulding a Lowes right down the street.

and by no means did I name them all, I think John could add a hundred more http://oakhurstforums.com/icon/yes.gif

But where does it stop?? Whats Progress?, and how far does progress go???

I would hate to see Oakhurst lose it Country/Mountain type appeal, if it already has started to lose it now!!!
I love it here, so where does it stop?

How many fast foods do you really need for more choices?

[Summer]

Well, I have to agree with Dodgergirl that it will happen. It will get a lot more uglier too. The people in control of what is built here have buckets of money and the locals will have no say. I know - been through it. When we moved to Canyon Country (town outside of Valencia, So. Cal.) in 1988 it was a rural country place just like Oakhurst. Enter the "Developers" who methodically incorporated all the small towns into a City (Santa Clarita) seated their allies on the City Board, who had voted in incorporation, then bought up the land (every sq. inch of it) and built, built, built until now there is no open space at all. The people fought long and hard but it was no match for $$$$$! That place is a nightmare now, too much traffic, over inflated housing, bursting at the seams. Broke my heart - but it happened. Thats why I say beware of incorporating Oakhurst into cityhood. The only people who will benefit will be the money mongers - they will rape the place, stuff their pockets, then leave, not caring what happens in their wake. I know I will not be able to stop it when it comes, but in the meantime, I will enjoy my Breakfast Jack and be happy that JIB is the biggest thing to be built recently. http://oakhurstforums.com/icon/hungry.gif

[Nascar8Fan]

Amen! That's one of the main reasons we left the SCV. It used to be such a "friendly" town and a great place to live and raise your children. Now when I go down there to visit my office, I just can't wait to get back home to the mountains. Not everyone sees it that way though. One of my best friends lives in Northridge, and she can't understand why I won't move back. Believe me, making the big bucks is not worth the life you have to deal with in living down there. Not to mention that English is pretty much the second language.

Sorry for swaying from the topic, but I just wanted to vent. I just hope and prey Oakhurst stays as it is because I sure do love my home.

[Summer]

Not to mention that English is pretty much the second language.

And where in California is it not? Maybe if you go to Canada - but then you have French as the primary language. Maybe we should just settle down and learn espaniol. I may just do that as I'm going to Mexico in October!! http://oakhurstforums.com/icon/eusa_dance.gif

[Dodgergirl]

My hometown (Reseda) now speaks Korean. Interesting.

[Surfus]

OK back on topic.
Why is it taking so long?

Construction of any building always seems fast when the sticks are put up. A 3 person crew can have a house framed in less than a week.

But when you get to the work of detail stuff like plumbing, mechanical and electrical things start to slow down especially with Commercial buildings because you have a lot stricter codes to follow like Fire systems and such. Then the finish work like drywall and fixtures seem to take forever.

I’m glad a fast food is on MY SIDE of town I hate going onto 41 just to go pick something up I usually cut across Rayleys parking lot to get to the Coffee place or mini mart if I have to.

[honeybee]

You can't even imagine the change to Oakhurst since my family moved here in 1972. It's not even the same town. Very sad really, but what the heck is one more fast food. Damage is done. That being said, I can't wait for Quiznos to open http://oakhurstforums.com/icon/happy.gif

[Coldwolf]

Official looking people on the site on Thursday with clipboards walking around.....

Of course, in shadier times, I carried a clipbord, buttondown shirt and a clip on plastic nametag and walked through lots of places I shouldn't have gone.

[Summer]

Sounds like inspectors.

[shansard]

Sheeit, they need to call Extreme Makeover: Fast Food Establishment Edition. Those crazies coulda had that place built in like 3 hours.

[Dawn]

I wonder if they'll have a playground area for the kids. But it doesn't look like there is enough room there....

[Summer]

I think there's enough room there, after they move out the heavy equipment and crap.

[Summer]

They were putting drywall in today. At what stage is that? Isn't that whay they do toward the end?

[Newcomer]

I am tired of them Jackin around (Pun Intended) I say git er done...

[TOT]

yeah, so much for fast food http://oakhurstforums.com/icon/rolleyes2.gif

[Raider]

I just don't get all this fascination with Jack in the box. http://oakhurstforums.com/icon/confused.gif Are they that special ? For Goodness sake they don't even serve beer ! http://oakhurstforums.com/icon/rolleyes2.gif

[Mibrew]

Its pretty sad isnt it, when lives evolve around Fast Foods http://oakhurstforums.com/icon/yes.gif they pop up left and right around here, the sad thing is that kids get hooked on these fast/fat foods, and ya wonder why there's obesity http://oakhurstforums.com/icon/rolleyes2.gif

[Summer]

Aw, come on Mibrew, some of us like fast foods. And we are talking Oakhurst. Not like new stuff pops up around here everday. No, its not good for you (fast food) but we like it - and there are no more kids to worry about - on my end, anyhow. So bring on the Jack in Box!

[concerned]

Oakhurst is a very popular destination for people wanting to get away from living in the hustle and bustle of a S.F/Bay Area, an Oakland or even towns in the San Joaquin valley. You can't blame the developers, they are just taking advantage of the influx of new citizens.

[concerned]

I am very much looking forward to the Jack In The Box. I loved their food. I just can't remember why.

[49er]

Originally posted by concerned:
I am very much looking forward to the Jack In The Box. I loved their food. I just can't remember why.



Amen brother... http://oakhurstforums.com/icon/yeahthat.gif

[Michelle]

I love Jack n Box........ there tacos are awesome.... i can't wait.........

[Yosemite_Wolf]

i love their tacos.. but i cant eat Jack no more... cos im on WW.

[Summer]

OK, looks like Jack in Box is inching closer to completion. So far looks like outside of building is being painted and the windows are in an today they were doing cement work for the drive through and parking. I remember Coldwolf mentioning Aug. 1st as opening day. That sounds about right as far as the construction is going. I am waiting for my Breakfast Jack!

[Yosemite Joy]

Damn http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/shame.gif

[Californee Girl]

Can you have Jamba Juice wolfie?

The last time I had Jack in the Crack I got sick as a dog before I could finish my sandwich. Im not too enthusiastic about this one going up. Im actually mourning the loss of the view into the Vons shopping center.

[Yosemite_Wolf]

i wasnt too thrilled about Jack coming to town... just as i think its sad we have Carls too. Like we need more fast food! I absolutely LOVE Jamba Juice!! They have some good Lo Carb smoothies made with Splenda.

[Nascar8Fan]

Yum!!! I can't wait for tacos and breakfast jacks!!

[John @ 3300ft.]

Must...
get....
antenna...
ball!

[Yosemite Joy]

It is the second of August and still it lies unopened, incomplete. What the heck?

[Summer]

It is the second of August and still it lies unopened, incomplete. What the heck?
Yes, they are reallllly slow. I'm thinking it wil probably be Sept. 1st.

[John @ 3300ft.]

They're waiting for all the summer traffic to end to see if the business will survive on "local" customers only... http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/laugh.gif

[Ironhorse]

I was told today by my dad, who knows the owner of Jack In The Box, that they were supposed to be open 2 weeks ago, but they can't open......... thanks to Hillview. The water pressure is so low that the hydrants can't pass the fire tests. The owner is NOT pleased.

[Mysteefied]

They don't even have the parking lot in yet. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/no.gif

[Yosemite Joy]

MMMmmmm... uranium.

[Nascar8Fan]

The grand opening is supposed to be at the end of this week. Let's see if it happens http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/happy.gif There is a chamber mixer there for the ribbon cutting.

[concerned]

When you see them paving the lot you will know that opening is just a couple of days away.

[Dawn]

I'm just glad more businesses are coming in here, no matter how long it takes.

[Mibrew]

Business...ok sure http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/yes.gif

Fast foods....NO!! http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/no.gif

[BGW]

Amen to that Mibrew. I know of 4 restaurants opening in Oakhurst between now and the middle of October. Seems odd to open a restaurant at the same time that business starts to slow down in our little tourist mecca

[Summer]

When you see them paving the lot you will know that opening is just a couple of days away.
You're right about that Concerned. They won't lay that concrete till just before opening. As of today it ain't layed yet so I guess it won't be for several days.

[concerned]

Drove by today and they were starting to lay the water and sewer lines. When that is done they will pave.

[Summer]

Yep, you were right Concerned, right after they paved (Wed.) last night they had their private party for the grand opening. Hmmmm, perhaps I may be able to get a breakfast jack on my way to work this morning?
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[Yosemite Joy]

I saw people standing outside waiting to go in maybe? They were still spraying or something the drive thru.

[Coldwolf]

My daughter had JoB yesterday, Saturday is the Grand Opening

[Yosemite Joy]

I ate there today through the drive thru.

[CatdaBrat]

It's nice to have a business that so many people have looked forward to, and I wish it success, but I am starting to avoid (whenever possible -- sometimes I have to go there) that entire shopping center just because it's been such a traffic snarl.

[Sandman]

It was pretty busy today when I drove by. So, Pop-Rocks, Dodgergirl and I went to El Cids. We spotted Messys Mom there.

[Californee Girl]

I think whoever does the landscaping chose a really bad time to put manure on the ground around Jack in the Box. I mean, opening week is just not a good time to have that smell all around a new restaurant. :theres no bad smell smilie:

[TOT]

ah. that's what it was. i thought it was vomit (i was afraid it wasn't ice cream i stepped in). the whole town smelled like that yesterday.

[Sandman]

I was saying the same thing earlier today to DG and PR when we drove by.

[Newcomer]

LOL I just came back from there. I was at the drive thru and had my window open and waiting for my food and siad to myself "Man that smells like Vomit" LMAO. So it's the landscaping causing that smell? I got my free Jack Bobble head and my Sourdough Jack and it was great http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/happy.gif

[Dodgergirl]

yum, sourdough jack... cristina picked up a bobble head for me...
how late are they open? I have a feeling I'll be eating there real late..... http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/laugh.gif

[Yosemite Joy]

I was battling major nausea this morning so my friend tried to get me to eat.. she wanted Jack in the crack and I didn't care, I just wanted a light salad.. but man, that vomit smell made me puke.

[jan]

Was by there yesterday & Jack was open for business!!!!!!!!!!

[beautiful_mess38]

Sandman and Dodge brought me 2 taco's last night. I ate them in front of the Jade though. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/wink3.gif

[LindaBo]

I Love the Jack -in the box tacos....We put Jack in the boxs up here in 1 week.....we do Every thing ////FAST\\\\ here. I don,t think we wait until the paint http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/eusa_dance.gif dries

[Nascar8Fan]

Too cool...we went there yesterday (Saturday) and they gave us a bobble head and also Jack t-shirts for the kids!! Breakfast Jacks were very yummy!!

[CatdaBrat]

This isn't to say that there is anything wrong with people who look forward to Jack in the Box -- they can eat anything they like. I was just wondering, though, about the situations when a new fast food restaurant opens up .... the lines and crowds are really something! Then it tapers off to what you might expect to be "normal."

The thing I am wondering is, what is the big rush and attraction to go to a common chain restuarant that opens in a new location? Is the new restaurant maybe going to be offering a dining experience that is different than the other 1,000-plus ones that people eat at on a regular basis?

Honestly, this is not sarcasm or anything negative -- I truly just wonder.

[CatdaBrat]

OK, I see that perhaps part of it is promotional merchandise.

[Mibrew]

I agree Cat

If your really excited about Fast Food and want to see Fast Food Restaurants, come to the Bay Area we have thousands, every corner, every name, and the wrappers/trash, litter the streets for miles and miles...

And ya wonder why so many people are obese, I'm glad there taking fast foods out of schools, and give the kids a fighting chance, that and the soda machines, another belly killer http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/wink3.gif

I fight everyday to not gain weight, its a big struggle, T.C. tells me she wants me to be healthy and life longer, knowing that men die a lot younger than woman, and since I already have a head start since I'm older than her, and besides...for me I feel better, healthy, energetic, and a lot happier not being obese, even though I still think I'm overweight.

Also if I didnt stay healthy, and watch my weight I wouldnt be able to drink my Microbrew beer on weekends http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/wink3.gif

[cak]

What Brew said. I really don't get it at all.

[electroman]

Jack-in-the-sack tacos are the primary source of grease in my diet. I actually like Burger King's tacos more than Jack's, but the King is dead here http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/cry.gif so when Jack finally opened I had a serious grease jones to satisfy. I've been eating 4 or 8 of those nasty things a day, but I'll probably taper off once my cholesterol levels stabilize. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/bonk.gif

[TOT]

i wish i had read the above post an hour ago...

i was hoping they had chili. they don't. so i got a taco cuz it's cheap.

i can't believe i waited in that long of a line (drive through, people behind me, no way out http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/sad3.gif) for the worst taco i've ever eaten. that's not a taco. no way. i've never even seen a taco that looked like that. disgusting.

[CatdaBrat]

Since I never ate or saw a Hack-in-the-Box taco, what does one look/taste like? Now I'm curious.

[Yosemite_Wolf]

I plan on never going to Jack in the crack. I think ive weaned myself from most fast food. Though i love an In and Out burger now and then. (DoubleDouble/animal and protein style).

[John @ 3300ft.]

Final Post:
I wasn't worth the wait.
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