Unmarked meat truck.

[SMcdon9686]

We had a pair come through our closed gate last week. The guy that got out of the truck's BO was intense and his hands were greasy like working on a motor. No signs on the vehicle, no permit # no inspection by the health dept. certificate. I think not!

[Mysteefied]

I've had someone come to my door before, ya right..like I'm really going to buy meat from a pickup from a stranger. NOT!

[John @ 3300ft.]

Was that the Omaha Steaks guy?
http://www.omahasteaks.com/

[Yosemite Joy]

The steak guys that used to come by my house when I lived in Oakhurst were pushy. Even when I told them no, they would walk back to the truck like they were leaving then come back to my door with a cooler with meat in dehydrated plastic stuff. Real rude. Always the same line "we need to get rid of this meat before we go back to Fresno, we had too much with us"... blah.

They weren't Omaha Steak guys, someone else. A generic meat company.

[jjcheyenne]

Is that legal, selling meat door to door? If someone like that came to my door, I would probably call the sheriff. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/yes.gif The meat probably is spoiled or something. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/sick.gif

[monkey]

They come to my house about once a year. When I tell them I'm a vegetarian, they leave. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/laugh.gif

[Newcomer]

They pulled up to our place and kept honking the horn not even getting out of the truck. I told them that I was not interested. They proceeded to do a burnout on the street and curse something out the window at me. I watched them pull into my neighbors driveway and honk the horn numerous times and not even get out of the truck again, my neighbor told me that they cursed at them also when they said no.

[monkey]

How rude of the d*mn B*&tards. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/laugh.gif
If they come back to my place, I'll get their plate number and phone it in. I'd hate to find out what the quality is like.

[oakhurstleaf]

Originally posted by SMcdon9686:
We had a pair come through our closed gate last week. The guy that got out of the truck's BO was intense and his hands were greasy like working on a motor. No signs on the vehicle, no permit # no inspection by the health dept. certificate. I think not!

*Raising an eyebrow*...Last week, Friday-July 14 somewhere between 7:15 and 7:45 am, someone stole $900 worth of ribs, brisket, and pork shoulders from Todd's Cookhouse BBQ. Definately the fault of Sysco for leaving the cases of meat outside our locked back door at 7 am...no one was at the restaurant to receive the order until 8 am and Sysco NEVER comes early...except for this day, of course. Sysco is absorbing the loss, so the sheriff's don't consider it a reportable loss!

If anyone knows anybody who suddenly became rich in ribs, brisket, and pork...has Sysco-marked boxes labeled with the aforementioned meats and Todd's Cookhouse on their private property...is selling these meats from an unmarked truck. Well, you don't need to make a citizen's arrest, but be aware there's a fast-acting thief in our midst and let our local sheriff know.

[Nas]

I hate thievery.

What's going on around here? And the fact the Sheriff's won't do anything about it is despicable. They wouldn't do anything about our stolen trailer either because "it was stolen from the front yard instead of from behind a locked gate." We had to contact the highway patrol.

I may be wrong, but aren't the local sheriff's much more familiar with the area's bad apples than the highway patrol? Wouldn't it make sense for them at least to take a report?

[monkey]

Wow, I'm glad Sysco is stepping up to the plate and replacing the meat, but it stinks that someone would take it. Several years ago, we kept coming up short on our Prime Rib inventory. We put in a camera system and haven't had any problems since, and it's fun to watch the bears on film in the spring and fall. (as well as the crazy naked man checking out last winter) http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/laugh.gif

[Yosemite_Wolf]

you know.. that stinks heavily of the scams that were going on in Fresno. There is a constant traffic of so called "gypsy" bands who come into town.... with shoddy equipment and supplies, knock on the door of the elderly or less wealthy and say "hey mrs so and so, we noticed your driveway is cracked etc.. we just happen to have extra supplies from our job up the road and we can do your driveway.. or roof (or whatever) today only for such and such CASH... be we can only offer you this today.. well, ok so the lil ol lady pulls out her coffee can... and blammo.. gone. The driveway or roof is "fixed" until the next rain when the driveway is flowing down into the gutter. or the roof is leaking like a sieve and the roofing material raining off of the roof! NEVER let someone work on your house, or buy goods such as meat if they dont have a license, name, etc etc.

If anyone sees our mysterious meat man.. get numbers and lic plates and call the BBB pronto!

[Mysteefied]

That really pisses me off!!! http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/shout.gif

If it's the unmarked truck, they come to my door quite often, alot of times I'll tell them I'm veggie, but this time, I'll tell them I'd like to see what they have and get a plate number from their truck.

[Ironhorse]

Originally posted by Nas:
I hate thievery.

What's going on around here? And the fact the Sheriff's won't do anything about it is despicable. They wouldn't do anything about our stolen trailer either because "it was stolen from the front yard instead of from behind a locked gate." We had to contact the highway patrol.

I may be wrong, but aren't the local sheriff's much more familiar with the area's bad apples than the highway patrol? Wouldn't it make sense for them at least to take a report?

For over 20 years, the Sheriff's department has refused to investigate anything "traffic related" including a lot of stolen vehicles (unless they are farm vehicles.) Traffic accidents, drunk drivers, stolen vehicles are all pawned off on Highway Patrol. And yes, I was a dispatcher for years and regularly went round and round with them over their refusals to take those reports. They will stop a drunk driver, in the county or in the city, then turn it over to CHP or city police to do all the paperwork. They claim they aren't "trained" for those types of investigations. Guess that means their not "real cops" huh? Deputies graduate from the same law enforcement academies as city cops, but I guess they sleep through the classes related to these crimes. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/wink3.gif So, in short...................it's a kiss off folks, there's no reason why they can't do that report, they just won't.

[MtnEagle]

Originally posted by monkey:
...Several years ago, we kept coming up short on our Prime Rib inventory. We put in a camera system and haven't had any problems since, and it's fun to watch the bears on film in the spring and fall. (as well as the crazy naked man checking out last winter) http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/laugh.gif

So... What you're saying is that the Bears like Prime Rib huh?

Wonder where they have their BBQ... http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/happy.gif

[monkey]

Yes, the bears do like Prime Rib, and they don't need no stinkin' BBQ. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/laugh.gif

[Anyperson]

You people crack me up! I love to read the forums just to see how much misinformation you can spread; you gotta love small town rumor mills.
Ironhorse, you have claimed to be connected to Law Enforcement on several occasions and now you claim to have been a dispatcher. I have to wonder with whom? Even someone vaguely associated with Law Enforcement is aware that most counties and some cities contract out certain traffic enforcement related functions to the CHP. The key term here is “contract.â€� The functions are not pawned off, it is the CHP’s job, and they are paid by the contracting agency to handle those crimes. In reference to the stolen trailer, if the trailer had been secured inside a garage or maybe a locked enclosure than the crime would have been a burglary and the Sheriff’s Department would have handled it. Since it was stolen in some other manner, it is an auto theft and the CHP is contracted to handle it. As far as the academies go, again someone of your “expertiseâ€� should know that the CHP’s academy and the P.O.S.T. academy are very different. CHP’s main function is traffic on the state highways. The CHP academy spends hundreds of hours on traffic related offences and very few on general criminal offences, the P.O.S.T academy is just the opposite. The cities that do their own traffic enforcement spend additional time training their Officers traffic enforcement. When a CHP oOfficer pulls over a car and finds that the amn and woman in the car are having and knock down, blow out who do you think they call? I’ll tell you, it’s not more CHP, they call the locals to handle the domestic. Why? Because it’s not what they do. Finally, in reference to the theft of meat. Sysco is covering the loss, therefore Todd’s is not the victim, Sysco is. I’m betting that Sysco will not wish to be the “victimâ€� as it looks bad on them.

[Ironhorse]

Yes I know that the regular law enforcement POST academy and CHP's POST academy are run differently, but they both require certain aspects of training, including investigation of DUI's and traffic related incidents, per P.O.S.T.. And the sheriff's department DOES pawn off those types of incidents to other agencies. That's why the other agencies get irritated with them. And every agency when it hires new officers puts them through field training with additional training above what they receive in the academies. For cities and counties, it doesn't concentrate on everything except traffic issues, that's included in the training also. But CHP's primary responsibility in the state is traffic on the highways, and now homeland security. So what are YOUR qualifications. I worked with a department 20+ years, and worked closely with the sheriff's department and CHP for those 20 years, and worked as a reserve at the sheriff's department for 2 years. And if YOU knew what you were talking about, you'd know that if CHP finds a domestic violence related incident on one of it's traffic stops, they do the investigation and complaint, they don't kiss it off to another agency. And if YOU knew anything about smaller agencies, you'd know that you wind up working many different assignments, whether it is animal control, dispatch, evidence, detectives, recruiting, background investigations, budgets, purchasing, task force, gangs, community service officer, etc. You could be assigned to work anywhere. And when you're with a city for a long time, you can even, gee whiz, be assigned to a new department within that city. Geez, talk about misinformation.

[Anyperson]

Well, either your “experienceâ€� is not local, you watch a lot of TV, or you are just making it up as you go along because you have no idea what you’re talking about. My qualifications are local and extensive but that is as far as I will go, as I prefer my anonymity.

[Nas]

What "mis-information" did I give you, Anyperson? I said that the Sheriff's wouldn't even take a report - true. I opined that they probably know the local scum more than the CHP. That's an opinion, but if its not true, refute it.

Frankly, the Sheriff's I did talk to didn't give me great cause to be encouraged. I stopped a few and told them what had happened, just to spread the word, and because I believe the theft must have been a local from Ahwahnee or there-abouts because the trailer was stolen from an anonymous, dead end, side street (not to say that it must be a local, just that it makes more sense). I was told - its hard to register a trailer, 'cuz the DMV wants to come out and see it. That's pretty funny. Its also not true. They're too obsessed with their computer screens. I was also told that when someone tries to register an older or non-use vehicle the DMV will need to come out to see it. Don't the sheriff's know that trailers are now given a life-time registration? I was also told that the VIN was stamped on the trailer. Also not true. Hasn't been that way for a long time. There's just a sticker. Oops - it got rubbed off when I was towing something.

You seem very defensive, for someone who won't share any details, "anyperson." I think maybe you're a sheriff. Or used to be. Maybe you couldn't even cut it. More likely, you're getting YOUR information from TV.

[Ironhorse]

Originally posted by Anyperson:
Well, either your “experienceâ€� is not local, you watch a lot of TV, or you are just making it up as you go along because you have no idea what you’re talking about. My qualifications are local and extensive but that is as far as I will go, as I prefer my anonymity.

My experience is local. I've stated my qualifications, you keep hiding yours. In all my time at the job, there were no contracts with CHP, if they have them now, which I doubt, it would be something new in the last few years. And the reason I doubt most agencies locally would do that is because they are strapped for cash anyway, the state tends to high charges for their services, and most agencies, BOS or City Councils would rather see that money spent on personnel for their own agencies. Nuff said.

[Yosemite_Wolf]

if you prefer to remain anon Anyperson.. then go climb back under your rock and stay there.

[Anyperson]

Nas, the statement about misinformation was not directed at you. However if you believe that the Sheriff’s know anymore about DMV policy than anyone else you would be mistaken. They have no contact with DMV other than to run plates and such. Your are correct to believe that it was likely a local the stole your trailer, however while it is something of the utmost importance to you, to the Sheriff’s Department it is just another stolen vehicle. Just a hard fact of life.
Ironhorse, “My experience is local. I've stated my qualificationsâ€�. No you have not. You have made some vague innuendos to have been associated with Law Enforcement. Except for your whole two years as a reserve you have not stated any actual street experience. My guess is that you were a dispatcher, and perhaps just a dispatcher for an animal control somewhere. Neither a dispatcher nor a reserve qualifies you as Law Enforcement, a “want-a-beâ€� maybe, but that’s it. I’m through with you, you can go now.
Yosemite_wolf, no need to reply to your statement and point well taken.

[Nas]

Just a hard fact of life.

True. I didn't really expect more, and I hate myself for complaining. I too worked closely with many different police and sheriff's departments in my previous 22 yr career. Just as a retail loss prevention investigator, however, not as a law enforcement officer. So I am familiar with jurisdictions, law enforcement priorities, technicalities, etc.

Even so, it can still be frustrating.

Truce. I don't like to bicker, and it doesn't help anything anyway!

[beautiful_mess38]

My 2 cents. All you mountain longtimers know that thier used to be 1 sherriff in this town and you can tell him anything and he would do his best to help you out. Oh lets see 10-15 years ago along came more. What would you say Ironhorse were they locals or transplants from somewhere else. Anyway my point is again, you used to be able to talk to a sherriff/chp about anything being stolen and they would say "hey I'll keep an eye out for ya". Now a days thier to busy. To busy doing what? Don't they care about the community there supposed to be protecting like they did 20 years ago.

And I have 1 question and I know this has been brought up before. Example: yesterday I saw a sherriff pull over a speeder. So, is this part of his job, chp not around, there are no contracts so yes he has the right to pull over speeders if he wants to. Cause I have seen speeders and the sherriffs do nothing. Whats the story with sherriffs handing out tickets.

[Ironhorse]

Originally posted by Anyperson:

Ironhorse, “My experience is local. I've stated my qualificationsâ€�. No you have not. You have made some vague innuendos to have been associated with Law Enforcement. Except for your whole two years as a reserve you have not stated any actual street experience. My guess is that you were a dispatcher, and perhaps just a dispatcher for an animal control somewhere. Neither a dispatcher nor a reserve qualifies you as Law Enforcement, a “want-a-beâ€� maybe, but that’s it. I’m through with you, you can go now.



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[Ironhorse]

Originally posted by beautiful_mess38:
My 2 cents. All you mountain longtimers know that thier used to be 1 sherriff in this town and you can tell him anything and he would do his best to help you out. Oh lets see 10-15 years ago along came more. What would you say Ironhorse were they locals or transplants from somewhere else. Anyway my point is again, you used to be able to talk to a sherriff/chp about anything being stolen and they would say "hey I'll keep an eye out for ya". Now a days thier to busy. To busy doing what? Don't they care about the community there supposed to be protecting like they did 20 years ago.

And I have 1 question and I know this has been brought up before. Example: yesterday I saw a sherriff pull over a speeder. So, is this part of his job, chp not around, there are no contracts so yes he has the right to pull over speeders if he wants to. Cause I have seen speeders and the sherriffs do nothing. Whats the story with sherriffs handing out tickets.

You have a mixture of locals and transplants Messy. Most department do anymore. And yes, the Sheriff's can pull over speeders, and investigate accidents, and investigate vehicle thefts (on or off the road), and investigate DUI's, they choose not to, which is my point. They have the training, they have the knowledge, they just don't, unless they absolutely have to. Technically, Hwy 41 and 49, which are state routes are CHP's "responsibility", but there is no reason why the SO can't handle traffic violations there, the Hwy's are within the county jurisdiction also.

[Newcomer]

1st off what does this have to do with unmarked meat trucks?

2nd Boy has this thread turned into a mess.

3rd, by the way, I invented the internet http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/laugh.gif

[Lacey]

Funny, the one and only time I got pulled over when I lived in Oakhurst was by the Sheriffs. They pulled me over because one of my tail lights was out. They didn't ticket me. Just told me I needed to get it fixed.

TC got pulled over by a Sheriff one night after leaving the Jade. He didn't get a ticket. Just was told to wear his seat belt.

So our experience is that the Sheriffs are definitely doing traffic patrol!

[Yosemite_Wolf]

sounds like the CHP who stopped me at the four lanes... he told me to get my tail lights fixed I thought it was cos i told him i worked at Wish I Ah.

[oakhurstleaf]

a Sheriff stopped to help me when I got a flat tire on 41...just over Deadwood.

[Ironhorse]

Yes they stop to help motorists with flats, etc., and they might stop you if you have a tail light out or something like that, but how often do they write the ticket? Hardly ever. That was my point. That is not traffic enforcement, even though it's nice not to get the ticket. And those are the "little" violations. What I was talking about are the bigger things, like stolen vehicles, DUI's, accidents. Don't get me wrong, a deputy will recover a stolen vehicle, they just won't take the report, and even civilian employees in a department can take those reports, so why won't the sheriff????? Yep, you're right the topic is off topic. Sorry

[Yosemite Sam]

I remember one time me and my mule was asked over to the side of the road and cited for littering because my mule had to let one loose in the middle of the road. he complained of my odor and told me that it was a public offence and if I did'nt clean up my act he was gonna throw me in the county jail. I said your momma had no complaints last night about my odor http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/laugh.gif and that's when things turned real bad. He threw me to the ground and told me he was gonna kick my A$$ and I sad go ahead and try, I have been trying for years but he all ways kicks me first http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/laugh.gif.

[Ironhorse]

Originally posted by Yosemite Sam:
I remember one time me and my mule was asked over to the side of the road and cited for littering because my mule had to let one loose in the middle of the road. he complained of my odor and told me that it was a public offence and if I did'nt clean up my act he was gonna throw me in the county jail. I said your momma had no complaints last night about my odor http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/laugh.gif and that's when things turned real bad. He threw me to the ground and told me he was gonna kick my A$$ and I sad go ahead and try, I have been trying for years but he all ways kicks me first http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/laugh.gif.
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[jan]

Originally posted by Anyperson:
Nas, the statement about misinformation was not directed at you. However if you believe that the Sheriff’s know anymore about DMV policy than anyone else you would be mistaken. They have no contact with DMV other than to run plates and such. Your are correct to believe that it was likely a local the stole your trailer, however while it is something of the utmost importance to you, to the Sheriff’s Department it is just another stolen vehicle. Just a hard fact of life.
Ironhorse, “My experience is local. I've stated my qualificationsâ€�. No you have not. You have made some vague innuendos to have been associated with Law Enforcement. Except for your whole two years as a reserve you have not stated any actual street experience. My guess is that you were a dispatcher, and perhaps just a dispatcher for an animal control somewhere. Neither a dispatcher nor a reserve qualifies you as Law Enforcement, a “want-a-beâ€� maybe, but that’s it. I’m through with you, you can go now.
Yosemite_wolf, no need to reply to your statement and point well taken. VERY WELL SAID!!!!!!!

[Ironhorse]

Originally posted by jan:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Anyperson:
Nas, the statement about misinformation was not directed at you. However if you believe that the Sheriff’s know anymore about DMV policy than anyone else you would be mistaken. They have no contact with DMV other than to run plates and such. Your are correct to believe that it was likely a local the stole your trailer, however while it is something of the utmost importance to you, to the Sheriff’s Department it is just another stolen vehicle. Just a hard fact of life.
Ironhorse, “My experience is local. I've stated my qualificationsâ€�. No you have not. You have made some vague innuendos to have been associated with Law Enforcement. Except for your whole two years as a reserve you have not stated any actual street experience. My guess is that you were a dispatcher, and perhaps just a dispatcher for an animal control somewhere. Neither a dispatcher nor a reserve qualifies you as Law Enforcement, a “want-a-beâ€� maybe, but that’s it. I’m through with you, you can go now.
Yosemite_wolf, no need to reply to your statement and point well taken. VERY WELL SAID!!!!!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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[Californee Girl]

Originally posted by monkey:
They come to my house about once a year. When I tell them I'm a vegetarian, they leave. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/laugh.gif

I told them that we were vegetarian and they offered me fish!! http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/laugh.gif

[Ironhorse]

Seriously, if they come to someone's house, try to get a vehicle description and/or license plate #, then call the Health Department, or Sheriff's Office. But I'd start with the health department. At least then they are aware someone is going around selling what could be bad meat/fish or whatever. The health department inspects vendors to ensure that the meat/fish/produce are stored at the proper temperatures and that it's being stored in a clean/safe environment, and handled right. Each person who owns/operates this type of business is required to pass a course on safe food handling. Their employees don't necessarily have to take the course, but the owners have to.