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beautiful_mess38
Feb 21, 2006, 05:41 PM
Calif. Execution Postponed Indefinitely By DAVID KRAVETS, AP Legal Affairs Writer
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SAN FRANCISCO - State officials on Tuesday postponed indefinitely the execution of a condemned killer, saying they would be unable to comply with a judge's order that a medical professional administer the lethal injection.

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Prison authorities called off the execution after failing to find a doctor, nurse, or other person licensed to inject medications to give a fatal dose of barbiturate, said Vernell Crittendon, a spokesman for San Quentin State Prison.

"We are unable to have a licensed medical professional come forward to inject the medication intravenously, causing the life to end," he said.

It was unclear when the execution would be carried out, but the delay could last for months because of legal questions surrounding California's method of lethal injection.

What does everyone think of this?

MadScot
Feb 21, 2006, 08:32 PM
I don't blame the Doctors and Nurses it's so very contrary to what they do. I'm against the death penalty but this is kind of stupid. It's not like there is a nice way to kill somebody regardless of the method your inflicting pain. It would not surprise me if the courts ban executions. I find the notion that there is a way to kill someone that isn't cruel absurd.

Did you know one of the early rifts between the colonies and the British were the corporal punishment laws of the British military. They were cosidered barbaric by many colonists. In order to get people to join the militia the commanders had to agree that troops would not be under direct British control and would not be subject to British discipline.

frmmts2sea
Feb 21, 2006, 09:07 PM
I don't like any of this either, but as was quoted by MadScot, the Dr's & nurses are not there to do this. Who, of any1, thinks this preditor should get more time? His victum surely didn't http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/sick.gif

beautiful_mess38
Feb 22, 2006, 07:25 AM
I think the criminal should indure more pain then his victim did.
Why is it this country always protects the criminals and not the victims.
She suffered plenty, so should he.

MadScot
Feb 22, 2006, 09:32 AM
Didn't Jesus forgive his killers from the cross?

My position has nothing to do with the killer it has everything to do with us as a civilized society. If we can not overcome the petty need for revenge we will never progress any further as a society. If we do not progress we are doomed to extinction.

Dodgergirl
Feb 22, 2006, 09:56 AM
Madscot, while I usually agree with your posts, this one is different. I, IMHO, do not equate "found guilty by a jury of his peers" with "a petty need for revenge".

While I am undecided on the death penalty, I believe each case needs to be examined on it's own (the same belief I have for abortion) (Yes, I know, that makes me a bad Christian, I've heard it all before)

And I cannot blame Doctors who take an oath to help people and do no harm, for not wanting to break that oath by being a party to the killing of a human being.

And yes, Jesus forgave his killers from the cross, and asked His Father to forgive them, too. Saying, 'they know not what they do".

For the record, (which I understand you are not arguing), this guy raped, tortured & murdered a young girl & now his defense is (or that of his attorneys) we don't want him to suffer, that would be inhumane. This statement defends us as a civilized society. We are, as a people, concerned about the inhumanity to this man, a confessed murderer.

My opinion is his team found the most incredible loophole in the law, how can a doctor perform an act that will essentially break their oath? I stand in amazement that this man will be allowed to live because of the humanity in our current society. Not too many years ago (relatively) this guy woulda been shot or strung up, without the courtesy of a trial.

And, I doubt that this young lady who was brutalized would have asked her parents. or society for that matter to 'forgive' her killer. BUT that is just speculation on my part.

JMHO

MadScot
Feb 22, 2006, 11:44 AM
I respect your opinion Dodgergirl I am not without personal conflict on the subject.

I find the greatest of wisdom in your last remark that it's just speculation of what this girl would have wanted.

Part of my problem with the death penalty stems from my belief on why someone kills. Say a son or daughter runs in front of a car gets killed in front of their father. Neutrons misfire he becomes enraged drags the driver out and kills them. Whereas the chances of him getting convicted of manslaughter may be pretty high I doubt he would be convicted of murder. Why? Because he was not in control of his own actions.

I believe this to be the case in most instances of murder I don't believe a sane person commits murder. Having this belief I can't condone the death penalty I wouldn't kill someone for being physically sick why should I do it to someone who is mentally sick. We call it mental illness but it's caused by a physical problem just as any illness.

There are also issues of society as in the case of Tookie. Not to say it is an excuse but when you compare murder rates in this country with that of others the numbers are very lopsided. I'm really too tired to go further into this line of reasoning.

frmmts2sea
Feb 22, 2006, 03:30 PM
Oh, I so agree. She did not have the 25 yrs He has already have. Very good ty http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/applause.gif

Keith
Feb 22, 2006, 09:37 PM
I think that we should sale all Executions to the United Arab Emirates... http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/bonk.gif

If there going to handle the incoming goods in our East Coast Ports, then lets let them come on over to the West Coast and take care of all our outgoing Convicted Death Row Inmates.. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/laugh.gif

God, I Love America http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/eusa_dance.gif

John @ 3300ft.
Feb 22, 2006, 10:06 PM
State officials on Tuesday postponed indefinitely the execution of a condemned killer, saying they would be unable to comply with a judge's order that a medical professional administer the lethal injection.
Why don't they cram the bennies down the guys throat? He'll end up just as dead.

frmmts2sea
Feb 22, 2006, 10:26 PM
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