Movie: Grizzly Man (2005)

[Keith]

Just saw the Grizzleman movie and it really makes you understand the importance of walking in the great outdoors http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/shocked.gif.
Mother nature can literaly chew you up and spit you out if your not aware of your suroundings. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/cry.gif

[John @ 3300ft.]

Did they play the audio recording of his attack?

[Newcomer]

No John, They show the director listening to the attack and the reaction on his face. Also the Discovery channel is showing the edited version of Grizzzlyman tonight I amsure they just cut out all the curse words.

[frmmts2sea]

My g/f in NY just told me about this movie this morn. I'll have to check it out. Pose to be very good

[Average Joe]

WACK JOB ALL THE WAY ! http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/rolleyes2.gif

[Keith]

Yup , Just a man and his Bear http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/shocked.gif. Alone for months http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/anxious.gif.

The final attack that Killed him and his girlfriend, acording to the film maker, His girlfriend faught , with a frying pan , for 6 minutes with the bear http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/bonk.gif while her boyfriend's last words, while hanging from the bears mouth, where run, run, run http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/sick.gif.

I can't believe that the woman who still has the tape of the final attack has not destroyed it http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/cry.gif. Nobody should hear that tape, out of respect http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/sad3.gif.
http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/disappointed.gifSad thing is there's a market out their that would pay big money to hear that tape, so all the more reason to destroy it ASAP.

[BGW]

Originally posted by Average Joe:
WACK JOB ALL THE WAY ! http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/rolleyes2.gif

I agree. After watching the film tonight....I find myself wondering if Treadwell had truly been clean and sober (as was his claim) during those summers. Many of his behaviors screamed methamphetamine psychosis. That is just my opinion. I could be wrong.

Here's a couple interesting links to webblogs that have written about Treadwell.

http://www.jimlynch.com/blog/index.php?p=346

http://www.frizzensparks.com/archives/000173.html

[Harmony]

I just watched this tonight. He is one strange fellow! I agree, I don't think he was completely sober either.

[Dodgergirl]

I can't find this listed. When will it be on again?

[BGW]

Originally posted by Dodgergirl:
I can't find this listed. When will it be on again?


I just searched discovery.com and found nothing...sorry

[Harmony]

My brother-in-law rented it from Blockbuster...

[John @ 3300ft.]

I saw the last half of the "making of the movie" then the first half of the movie on the Discovery Channel last night.

He was whack. I think the native Aleut museum curator said it best: He crossed a line between Man and Bear that no one had never done before.

The crazy dude had a Bambi mindset, and anthropomorphized the Bears, and himself in reverse.

I have heard the partial audio tape of his attack/death in a previous show on bears. It is chilling. I think they should have aired it in the film, not sanitize reality

[Yosemite_Wolf]

Sounds like the "Blair Witch Trials" all over again.

[cedarvalleyman]

Just wanted to say HI to everyone on here. Glad to have joined, suprised I didn't know about this site sooner.
Just my 2 cents about this, I watched it 2 times, yes 2 and I would have to say that there is no way that Treadwell was sober, no way.....Any of you who saw it remember the whole, "We need RAIN!! + Rant + Rave and so on that was pointed at the man upstairs!?!?! WHACKED, out of his gourd! Just my opinion mind you!
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Cedar

[Average Joe]

Originally posted by cedarvalleyman:
Just wanted to say HI to everyone on here. Glad to have joined, suprised I didn't know about this site sooner.
Just my 2 cents about this, I watched it 2 times, yes 2 and I would have to say that there is no way that Treadwell was sober, no way.....Any of you who saw it remember the whole, "We need RAIN!! + Rant + Rave and so on that was pointed at the man upstairs!?!?! WHACKED, out of his gourd! Just my opinion mind you!
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Cedar Welcome to the forums. Yeah the guy definitely lost it and went off the deep end, drugs would go a long ways towards explaining his behavior but even then I think he had something seriously wrong going on.

[Dodgergirl]

Just finished watching it, I rented it from Netflix. Some of the things they stated, like he had almost OD'd earlier in life explains some of his behaviors. Once you've essentially come back from death, it doesn't scare you the way it scares some people. Death is just another part of living, this I know from experience. He was taking chances a 'normal' person wouldn't take, just as he did earlier when he experimented with drugs.
Another thing I noticed was his speech patterns, which I was told by the person I watched with as "sounding gay", didn't seem that way to me, Y'all gotta remember I teach kids, little kids & thats how he was talking, like he was talking to preschoolers...I know there was a lot of cussing, but that would be edited out before the final product was shown... He brought his 'movies' back to schoolchildren, and thats how he talked to them.
Honestly, I don't think he was using, they woulda put those test results in the documentary, they did have blood & tissue to test & it wouldn't have disintegrated in the few hours between death & his being found. I thought that was odd, too... He was there all that time, but found essentially right before he was to be picked up.
Interesting movie, Interesting Life...

[frmmts2sea]

I'm really looking forward to watching this. My friend from NY also said it will be available to rent @ the vidio stores http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/applause.gif

[Mr. Man]

I really want to see this. It's pieced together by the great director Wernor Herzog. He's kinda crazy himself. Although he directed some of the greatest movies I've ever seen: Aguirre The Wrath of God and Fitzcarraldo. Those movies are in a different class than anything made. No special effects, which nearly killed the cast.

[LindaBo]

If it has bears in it? no thanks! i saw a Story about a man and hes girlfriend who went up to be friends with bears and ended up..........................I well not say, http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/worried.gif it gave me night mares http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/disappointed.gif i,m not going to it that is for sure http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/eusa_dance.gif

[beautiful_mess38]

I watched this movie last night.

It did go into his drug experience but they never said if he was clean & sober before starting this adventure with the bears.

I do beleave he crossed the line with the bears though. He should have kept more of a distance.

There were a few times in the movie where Tarzan crossed my mind. I felt he wanted to be like Tarzan and have the animals including the bears follow him.

As far as his behavior, it was way out there. They did say he would use alot of film for one piece doing it over and over. maybe that was for theatrics. I don't know. It could have been out of lonliness and boredom too. Living in the wilderness with the animals most of the time by yourself can mess with your mind and even more so if he was already damaged by drugs.

I thought the movie was very interesting and worth watching.

[Kahlua Kid]

We felt he might have wanted to die at a Bear's hand and have his girlfriend there to witness it to take back to the World to help bring publicity to his work. Take it to the next level, like a Martyr. (As this movie actually has done.)

It seemed odd after what 12, 13 summers, he brought his girlfriend with him (someone else than himself). He didn't need socializing out there with other people. He liked socializing with the bears and foxes and nature.

And the attack happened right at the end of his journey right near the pick-up site, just hours before pick-up.

I believe he could read the bears - as someone eventually can read dogs, horses, gorilla, or monkey behaviors... After so much time spent, he knew what to expect and I believe could read their body language and visa versa... I think he knew exactly what that old Grizzly following them meant.

I thought it a bit nuts his girlfriend spent 6 minutes hitting the Grizzly with the frying pan. At some point, self-preservation takes over, you judge the situation, see its hopeless for the other and get the h#$l out of there! (I know that sounds heartless.)

[Lacey]

I fell asleep before this movie ended last night, but I thought the guy was nuts. It said in one segmant that he had women up there with him all the time. It was just important to him to make it appear he was all alone. They said his current girlfriend had been up there with him the last 2 years. So this wasn't her first trip there.

I don't think he wanted to die just yet. I think he felt safe with the bears. He thought he had some sort of communication with them. I agree he made a huge mistake crossing over the invisible bounderies.

It is coming on again tonight and, if I remember, I will tune it in to see the ending. I got the impression that the attack that killed them took them totally off guard...since no one had removed the lense cap. That's why there is only an audio. Had they remembered, we would have had a visual also. YUK!

What a totally terrifying way to die. Especially for her. She was afraid of bears, according to the accounts of their journeys.

I thought he had some great footage, but in my opinion, the man was totally messed up in his way of thinking. He was staging everything. He was trying to glorify his ordeal. Sad story!

[monkey]

It's on tonight on Discovery Channel at 8pm. I'm not sure I want to watch, but I guess I will to see what you all are talking about.

[Yosemite Joy]

In my opinion Timothy was a terrific documentarian. He was manic when it came to being with the bears, and his hatred of the Forestry Dept. If you can not see the beauty of his near psychosis in his love (he was literately In Love with the animals) then you are missing the point.

And another thing, why are some of you judging the movie, and thus Treadwell prior to seeing the documentary? That is absurd. Like reading a review of a book, reading the cover, then saying it is terrible.

[BGW]

A couple of things have stayed with me after watching this film a couple of times.

1. How was it he turned a note written on a piece of wood into something evil - a death threat? Could have just as easily been a fan or little kid or or or?

2. He kept going on and on about all the work he was doing for the bears...to save the bears. The film never went into the "from whom" aspect. Sure, Treadwell claimed there were bad people out there trying to harm the bears, but with all his ego issues I would have thought we would have seen some of this rescuing in action!

I compliment him on his filming of the bears. He did get some very up close footage that will be used to study the ways of these bears for along time.

[beautiful_mess38]

Originally posted by Yosemite Joy:
In my opinion Timothy was a terrific documentarian. He was manic when it came to being with the bears, and his hatred of the Forestry Dept. If you can not see the beauty of his near psychosis in his love (he was literately In Love with the animals) then you are missing the point.

And another thing, why are some of you judging the movie, and thus Treadwell prior to seeing the documentary? That is absurd. Like reading a review of a book, reading the cover, then saying it is terrible.

That maybe your opinion. I have my own point of view. Yes he was in love with the bears but he crossed the line and it got him and his girlfriend killed.

[Yosemite Joy]

Originally posted by bgirlsworld:
A couple of things have stayed with me after watching this film a couple of times.

1. How was it he turned a note written on a piece of wood into something evil - a death threat? Could have just as easily been a fan or little kid or or or?



Yeah, that was pretty strange. Oh no it says "Hi" it's a death threat! Very manic and paranoid.

[Yosemite Joy]

Originally posted by beautiful_mess38:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Yosemite Joy:
In my opinion Timothy was a terrific documentarian. He was manic when it came to being with the bears, and his hatred of the Forestry Dept. If you can not see the beauty of his near psychosis in his love (he was literately In Love with the animals) then you are missing the point.

And another thing, why are some of you judging the movie, and thus Treadwell prior to seeing the documentary? That is absurd. Like reading a review of a book, reading the cover, then saying it is terrible.

That maybe your opinion. I have my own point of view. Yes he was in love with the bears but he crossed the line and it got him killed. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Please don't seek out my posts to take offense to. I wasn't talking about you, I can't remember what you posted before. I did say it was my opinion. I wasn't looking for validation or a comment.

[Kahlua Kid]

Originally posted by Yosemite Joy:
If you can not see the beauty of his near psychosis in his love (he was literately In Love with the animals) then you are missing the point.


Exactly true! I could not have put that into words better.

[Kahlua Kid]

Originally posted by bgirlsworld:
2. He kept going on and on about all the work he was doing for the bears...to save the bears. The film never went into the "from whom" aspect.

I think he meant Poachers and those who would do bears harm - even photography tours... he saw them harming the bears by throwing rocks at them (to get them to look). They did show some of that footage where he was filming a group who were rafting and throwing rocks at the bears for their own gratification (shots with the bears looking at them).

[beautiful_mess38]

Originally posted by Yosemite Joy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by beautiful_mess38:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Yosemite Joy:
In my opinion Timothy was a terrific documentarian. He was manic when it came to being with the bears, and his hatred of the Forestry Dept. If you can not see the beauty of his near psychosis in his love (he was literately In Love with the animals) then you are missing the point.

And another thing, why are some of you judging the movie, and thus Treadwell prior to seeing the documentary? That is absurd. Like reading a review of a book, reading the cover, then saying it is terrible.

That maybe your opinion. I have my own point of view. Yes he was in love with the bears but he crossed the line and it got him killed. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Please don't seek out my posts to take offense to. I wasn't talking about you, I can't remember what you posted before. I did say it was my opinion. I wasn't looking for validation or a comment. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

then you are missing the point.

I was commenting on that.

I never take offense to your posts YJ. I beleave in my own opinion.

I didn't miss the "point". I happen to have my own point of view that differs from yours.
Thats my comment to your post.

[BGW]

The Alaska Tourism Guide says to throw rocks at the bears to scare them off. So....I am thinking it is all about perspective as are most things in life@ http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/lol.gif

[Kahlua Kid]

Originally posted by bgirlsworld:
The Alaska Tourism Guide says to throw rocks at the bears to scare them off. So....I am thinking it is all about perspective as are most things in life@ http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/lol.gif

Maybe that's why he was so mad at the authorities!!! Just kidding.

[Lacey]

I agree, he was in love with the bears. That is very evident. But it appeared to me he was over the edge with his adoration. In my opinion, he didn't really believe he was ever in any danger. He thought he had been accepted into the lifestyle of the bear and he thought he could handle any confrontation. He lost sight of the fact that wild animals are always wild animals and don't form bonds with humans that supersede their natural instincts or their lifestyle.

When I saw the part where his girlfriend went out to help unload the plane and he stopped her and said it was to appear that he was there alone and lonely, I realized everything he was doing was staged. Also, he filmed himself treadging through the brush over and over to get the right 'look'. Seemed like theatrics to me.

I agree with bgirl...it seems he would have shown more of the destruction than he did...to make his point.

Please understand...I'm an animal lover who believes that our animals need to be protected from cruel humans....but this man just irritated me and made it all about HIM. Just my opinion.

[frmmts2sea]

I missed it again http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/cry.gif

[tocools]

He was in a Nal. Park where the Bears were protected and any human that thinks humans can live with wild animals and not get attacked sooner or later is wacked. The guy was a fake and a druggie and as far as I am concerend had no respect for the bears or any other wild animal.