Boys & Girls Club, Oakhurst

[MtnEagle]

I added the poll that MtnEagle originally had setup on the old site. -Sandman

[Patagoniamaniac]

I think it's a great place in a great location. I let me kids go there after school when I am going to Fresno and wont be home in time to pick them up. They are not to leave the fenced area ever! my kids tell me that a lot of kids with bad mouths hang out there at times. I dont like that at all but what are ya gonna do? I think its great for people who dont want to spend $ on childcare...I heard they may be closing down that would be a shame

[MtnEagle]

I think it was a great idea, and generally speaking great people supervising the kids, but recently there are certain individuals there who have ruined it for us (and other people I hear as well).

I wanted to see if I was alone in my feelings or if it was a more widespread feeling among the parents.

May close down eh? What happens to the $$ in trust for new facilities like restrooms and stuff? Someone pocketing that cash? http://oakhurstforums.com/icon/rolleyes2.gif I knew they were tied up with zoning BS between County and State building codes for the location.

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[Patagoniamaniac]

That may just be a rumor, but I recieved a letter from one of the workers there asking for donations so it wont close. I really hope it doesnt close . It really is convenient for working parents and it's within walking distance from the elementary school and intermediate school.

[MtnEagle]

It's alright I suppose if you don't mind someone getting too familiar with your kids and eventually telling you how to be a parent...

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[Dawn]

Right behind the Boys/Girls club there is a large area of water near the RV park and it looks about 10 feet deep.(?) Last summer I had seen very young children from the boys/girls club aged 6 and 7 putting their feet in the water. But it is too deep and dangerous. I have told the volunteer workers about it and they don't seem very concerned. Some of the parents don't know there is such deep water behind the boys/girls club and the volunteers have been letting really young children wander around outside of the gates.

[rimalicious]

Wow, look at how long it has been since anyone has posted about the Club! Have we forgotten about it? Mtn, how dare you accuse any agency of pocketing funds that they may not have been able to use yet! It's too bad that you think anyone would do that.

[Dawn]

Yes, I agree with all the bad language. I would hear that all the time with the kids. My daughter got pushed off a rock by one of the other bigger kids and they bandaged her up but they didn't seem too concerned about it and didn't say anything to the one who pushed her off.

[MtnEagle]

Hmmm, well let's see, the post is almost 3 years old now, and you're gonna give me grief over it now? :p

The comment about pocketing funds was more of my twisted cynical sense of humor, which admittedly some people don't like or understand.

And just for the sake of the search for truth here, have the funds been released or used to do the work that was intended?

I should hope so by now.

[rimalicious]

Sorry I snapped at you.

The money has not been used for the bathrooms for many reasons. It would take way more money than was raised for the bathrooms to get them. For example, there are not even sewer lines that run to the club at this time so those would have to be brought in. Also, I don't know what the Club's status was when this thread began, but I do know now that it is in very serious danger of closing. If it takes the money that was raised for the bathrooms to keep the doors open another month, I say go for it.

Bill Atwood's column in tomorrow's Star will feature the Club as will an article that Editor David Richards is writing for a future issue.

[MtnEagle]

For the record, I think they idea of the club is an excellent one.

I just hate to see it get mired in politics and ego, which I felt was becoming the case with certain individuals back when I posted this poll.

Once again it's been almost 3 years, and for us personally the point is moot since we no longer live in the area. I have no idea how it is now or has been for those 3 years.

:)

[rimalicious]

Thanks for the clarification. I would hate for anyone to come across that post and think negatively of the Club based on it. Hopefully anyone who does think negatively of the Club will share their thoughts so they can be addressed. :)

[MtnEagle]

Thanks for the clarification. I would hate for anyone to come across that post and think negatively of the Club based on it. Hopefully anyone who does think negatively of the Club will share their thoughts so they can be addressed. :)

Which was the whole reason I posted the poll in the first place. :)

Ideally (in a perfect world):

Someone reading the thread for the first time who comes in with no former bias should be adult enough to read everything negative and positive and make up their own mind.

In the same token, someone who comes into the thread with a biased opinion positive or negative should not be dismissed, and their opinions and feelings taken seriously.

We can't be selective and censor out the bad in a thread for the sake of keeping the club afloat, and expect to be taken serious by the very people sending their kids there.

People need to speak up when they have an issue, which I think is where the core problem is in the first place most of the time.

The quality of the club is a balance of the character of the children, the parents, and the club employees/volunteers. If any one of these doesn't pull their weight, then everyone suffers.

But I'm preaching now... :p So, I'll shut up... :D

[rimalicious]

Then there is the problem of people who vote in the poll and don't post to explain why they voted that way...

Please! Let your reasons be known so that they can be addressed! ... But I'm preaching now... So, I'll shut up... :)

[Nascar8Fan]

My kids do go there occassionally on my late days at work. They complain about the bad language all of the time. I have even called and talked to one of the workers to see how they can get a better handle on it. There really isn't a way to control it since it is not a completely supervised campus. I just really think it is horrible for kids under the age of 10 to be using such bad language towards eachother. The names that a couple of the kids have called my son are just disguisting. Oh well, what can you do? Just know you have raised your kids better than that I guess.

[Dawn]

Last summer they let little kids wander off unsupervised way past the field and by a large area of water about 10 feet deep. They could easily fall in and drown. I'm not talking about the water by the bridge it is way past the buildings and past the field and you can't see it or know it's there after you drop your kids off. I have told the workers 3 times and they don't seem to care. I am worried this summer they will let them play near the deep water again.

[rimalicious]

The Harry H. Baker Boys & Girls Club - and the 400+ members – need your support.

I am a current member of the Board of Directors and, rather than participate in a continuing dialogue about the club, I prefer, and would like to encourage you, to contact either of the following persons if you have any questions, comments, or concerns:

Donna Smith – dsmith@fosterparker.com or Sherry Colgate – sherryc@stcg.net

Donna is President of the Board of Directors and has been proactively involved with the club since its inception in 1999. Sherry has been a board member since 2002.

Thanks! :)

[BGW]

Last summer they let little kids wander off unsupervised way past the field and by a large area of water about 10 feet deep. They could easily fall in and drown. I'm not talking about the water by the bridge it is way past the buildings and past the field and you can't see it or know it's there after you drop your kids off. I have told the workers 3 times and they don't seem to care. I am worried this summer they will let them play near the deep water again.

I have had a hard time deciding whether or not to vote and reply to this thread. I do not have children so I cannot give an opinion of the goings on inside the fenced area. What I do know, due to living close to the Club, is that older kids, after signing in, do wander off the property and take part in non-club sponsered activities. I figure there are and always will be a few bad apples to ruin it for all. My question is...where does my responsibility begin. These kids are suppose to be under the supervision of the Club and not the watchful eye of surrounding home owners. Do we start filing complaints or just accept that kids will be kids?

[Michelle]

I would send my kids there.. because it seems better then them hanging out in town. for the swearing the world is full of it and kids will say what they feel without there parents knowing and catchign them.. yes it is shocking when some of the words that can come out of there mouths and makes you wonder where they heard it from. But we as parents teach our kids to not repeat what other says and respect themselves and others then that kinda stuff won't bug them. Mine hear launguage like that and they first gasp and then think oh my parents out not be happy if i said that... but my 16 year old most likely does swear but i tell her it make her look ugly if she does and if i hear or get a complaint about her mouth well lets say she is in deep trouble...
so it is up to us to teach our own and hope for the best and that is why they have the board of people to write a letter to and let them know what is going on .. the kids swearing and the kids who are getting out and wondering off...

but that is just my thought on it

[Dawn]

Thanks Rima for posting the contact information.

[MtnEagle]

I would definately encourage people to contact you with their concerns; however, some might prefer to express themselves in a public arena such as this.

This Poll/thread will remain open to those who wish to use this avenue of expression until if/when Mat decides to close it.

:)

[Dawn]

Thanks MtnEagle. I feel better after reading your post.

[DMK]

I think we need to remember that the Boy's and Girls Club is not a daycare, nor should it be used as a free babbysitter. Kids are free to come and go as they please, during the hours the club is open. The staff is there to supervise the kids while they are at the club. Parents need to setup rules with thier children as to wether or not they may leave the fenced in club area. The staff's job is to watch over the kids at the club, not the area around the club.

[Dawn]

From now on when my kids go there, I stay there and watch them myself. They have been exposed to too much bad language and other older kids pushing them around. I don't want the bad kids to ruin it for them.

[rimalicious]

<b>Up in the air</b>

By David Richards

(Updated Friday, April 20, 2007, 4:38 PM)


Since 1998, the Harry H. Baker Boys & Girls Club in Oakhurst has been a home away from home for hundreds of Mountain Area students who want a place to go after school, on the weekends, or during summer. Now, with steady expenses and no corporate sponsor, the future of the club is... Up in the air

In the teen room, eighth-grader Tree Smith is irritated she no longer has access to her MySpace page.

At the skateboard park, Anthony Shimer, 11, talks about his new pair of Fallen skate shoes.

In the game room, 9-year-old De'Angelo Coffee, like the drink he says, stuffs a slam dunk while playing as Shaquille O'Neal on NBA 2K3 for the Nintendo Game Cube.

It's a typical afternoon at the Harry H. Baker Boys & Girls Club in Oakhurst.

The concrete is decorated with sidewalk chalk peace signs, and the indoor cubby holes are stuffed with backpacks.

The club has been open since 1998, with a 10-year anniversary quickly looming.

But with finances running around $120,000 per year at the bare minimum and no corporate sponsor since 2003, officials say they may not make it to the end of 2007.

"We're in big trouble," says Donna Smith, president of the club's board of directors. "We apply for a lot of grants, but we have difficulty receiving funding from foundations and grants based on the locality and ethnicity of our area."

Beginning in 1999, the club was sponsored by its namesake, Harry H. Baker, owner of Sierra Telephone. He pledged the cause $100,000 for five years through 2003.

Baker made good on that commitment.

There is a misunderstanding that Baker provides full funding for the boys and girls club, says Sierra Telephone representative Sherry Colgate, who is also on the club's board of directors.

But while he doesn't, Colgate and Smith say it's as a result of Baker's original donations that club officials were able to purchase portable buildings and hire staff.

Baker now helps the cause in other ways.

"The way Harry supports the club is through his employees helping with computers," Colgate says.

Baker's employees offer free technical support for the club's computer systems. And when the club needs furniture and other odds and ends, Sierra Telephone usually answers the call.

The big-screen television that De'Angelo uses to score his slam dunks, for instance, was donated a few weeks ago by the Oakhurst area business.

As of now, Smith says the club is being supported through donations, membership fees that were just raised from $5 to $10 per child, per year and seemingly non-stop fundraisers that range from drive-through tri-tip dinners to selling tie-dyed T-shirts. An on-line auction is planned for June 1 through July 7 at www.supportbgclub.com.

"It's not that we're not giving everything we can," Smith says. "We have a very hard-working board."

The past two years, the club has also raised money through the Oakhurst Honorary Mayor's race, where each candidate raises as much as they can for a non-profit organization of their choice over three months.

In 2005, Heather Scott raised $18,000 for the club, while last year, Brian Gearhart, who won the race, raised $13,000 for new computers. Barney Berrier is representing the club in this year's race, which kicked off yesterday.

The club's board members are still looking for more ways to generate funding.

They need money so that Hy Spirit Bonillas, 12, can keep gliding across the rails on his Westside skateboard.

So that junior Brittany Protzman, who sells snacks after school for the club, can have a part-time job.

So that Ahwahnee resident and parent Jill Howard can have a place for sons James Malone and Ryan Malone to go while she is still at work.

"This is their third year attending," Howard said. "I think it's wonderful. I would be dead in the water without it. So for $20 a year, compared with $6 or $7 an hour, it otherwise wouldn't pay for me to work."

Would the club's directors like another corporate sponsor?

"Ten," Colgate says.

Smith adds the expenses add up quickly.

Expenses

It costs $27,000 per year for liability insurance and payroll services. Then there's snacks, several healthy choices, with the Snickers and the Skittles mixed in.

There's $700 a month for renting portable restrooms and roughly $800 a month combined for electricity and phone bills.

There are arts and crafts supplies to purchase and also books and computer software to keep up with the programs the national club requires, such as ones in character and leadership development and health and life skills.

Then there's staffing, like unit director Treaka Haugen, who never used to be a kid person before, but is now, and staff member Sheyla Filmeridis-Cook, who speaks seven languages.

"It's critical," Colgate says of the situation.

Grants

Club officials have landed a few grants. They get $5,000 per year from the United Way. And since 2001, the club has partnered with the Madera County Department of Probation, which provides a state grant of roughly $25,000 per year for mentoring, tutoring and counseling.

The grant is scheduled to continue through at least 2007-2008.

Linda Perez, juvenile services division supervisor for the Madera County Department of Probation, says the club has played a key role in preventing truancy, situations where students stay away from school without permission to do so.

"Truancy is a precursor to juvenile delinquency," Perez says. "For our program, the boys and girls club has been very valuable to us in providing truancy prevention."

Harold Tackett, a counselor whose been working with club members for four years, says he's also seen a difference.

"What I do is kind of take a back-door approach and work as a friend and talk to them about this or that," he says. "It's one of the most valuable programs in the area. It's sad that we have to struggle so hard."

Growth

Smith and Colgate say the club has grown a great deal since it first opened in 1998.

It began in a single classroom at Oak Creek Intermediate School before club officials purchased three portables in 1999 that sit on the current location, a short bridge walk from Oakhurst Elementary School.

The club has leased the premises from the Bass Lake Joint Union Elementary School District for a period of 40 years.

Smith says the lease cost a small sum, which has since been paid off.

An average of 92 kids each day attend the club during the school year, with about 150 a day in the summer months.

"To the kids in the community, I think it's very valuable," says Laura Navarro of Oakhurst, whose two daughters use the club from time to time. "It gives the kids somewhere to go rather be on the street."

Oakhurst fifth-grader Kali Hardin agrees.

"I come whenever I need to," she says, adding that she passes the time visiting with friends, playing video games or doing homework.

Haugen says there will always be the kids who want things better, such as a pool or an improved skate park.

It doesn't seem to bother her that much, though.

"We're not everything to everyone, but I think in every community, something like this is needed," she says. "You can wait to try and do it when it's perfect, or you can do with what you've got. You can always have a wish list."

That list would include $100,000 for restrooms to replace the port-a-potties and roughly $600,000 to build a permanent facility.

As for Tree Smith, who has been coming to the Harry H. Baker Boys and Girls Club for "forever," she simply wants access to her MySpace page.

You see, Haugen says the national Boys and Girls Club recently ruled to no longer let any club members view MySpace Web sites on any club's premises.

"The MySpace thing is way over the top," Smith says.


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The Harry H. Baker Boys & Girls Club in Oakhurst

Location: Behind Oakhurst Elementary School off of Road 427

Hours: 2 p.m. to 7 p.m. Monday through Friday during the school year; 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. Saturday; also open during summer.

Cost: $10 per child, per year; $10 a month per child during summer.

Admission: Open to children, students and youth ages 6 to 18.

Contact: (559) 642-4600; www.supportbgclub.com.

[rimalicious]

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[rimalicious]

We have gotten some really cool items up on the auction site for all to preview now. We are getting new items DAILY! If you would like to donate you can contact me or register on the site and complete the forms online.

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[Sandman]

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The comments you make there will appear in the posts below.

[rimalicious]

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Ph: 559-642-0313

[oakhurstleaf]

Went over to the B &G Club today and they're closed. Normally open on Saturdays from 11:30 - 4. The kicker was all the windows were boarded up. And a small little printed note on the door stating they were suspending operations starting Feb 1 2008 (yesterday).

If Rima or anyone else knows, let us know why? Lack of funds? Something bad happen?

I know that funding is an ongoing issue...but didn't the recent tree auction and on-line auction make enough to keep it going until the next fundraiser?

Sad day.

[Sandman]

I understand it to be a funding issue, but Rima would be the best person to respond.

Oakhurst Computers is doing a fundraiser this month. Come by the store for details. Hopefully more businesses can follow our lead so that we can try to get the club open again. Oakhurst Computers is hoping to raise $1,000 in 3 weeks. I'm sure this will not resolve the situation, but it will help.

[oakhurstleaf]

Knowing of their funding shortfalls, and fear that doors would possibly close "someday" if funding wasn't enough ($120,000 roughly needed annually to operate)...I still find myself shocked that there was really no prior warning that the club would just shut down today, or yesterday rather. Was there any prior public notice? Did I miss something in the Sierra Star even?

It's really a tragedy for the kids of Oakhurst who depend on that place to be open.

I admire your fundraising efforts Mat...and I'm sure that many local businesses would follow suit in any way they can....but unfortunately, I think the B & G Club needs some big guns to come in with some heavy guaranteed annual sponsorship....at least to cover half of their yearly operating expenses, and fundraisers for the other half. We should all be asking what we can do to help. But also, what's been going wrong at the same time. There's something to this story.

Also is this just a temporary suspension of operation or is it indefinate? Rima....

[Summer]

Wow, first the Candled Egg and now Boys & Girls Club. What is going on or what is not going on? Both went down with no prior notice. This town has always been known to rally round a good benefit when in need.

[Dodgergirl]

I'm not really a fan of Boys and Girls club, but for some kids it was all they had instead of an empty house, so I will give them the credit for being there. (wow, what a run-on) Seems like there were things 'purchased' in the past that never materialized..., but possibly I am misinformed... Too many kids, not enough responsible supervision...

[oakhurstleaf]

Got me thinking...

Maybe the B&G Club Board of Directors should secure the Candled Egg Thrift Shop as a means to support the club! Save both places!

Of course it would take a little money to do that....but seems logical that the club should have a consistent revenue source rather than put all it's eggs in the baskets of random fundraisers and running by the hair of it's chinny-chin-chin..

The Boys and Girls Club of Venice, CA is supported/funded by a local thrift shop in their town.

[rimalicious]

There will be a detailed article in the Star on Wednesday. The Club closed due to lack of funding and we hope to re-open it. Will will continue to fundraise but yes, a steady stream of funding is needed. We have and will contnue to apply for grants, hold fundraisers, and solicit pledges for ongoing donations. This was a very very difficult and emotional decision to make and there are many many factors to consider when deciding how and when it can re-open.

Thank you to Mat and other local organizations who have chosen to keep the Club as the beneficiary for their upcoming fundraisers under these sad but necessary circumstances.

[oakhurstleaf]

I perused the Club's website and it looks as though 2007 was a banner year for fundraising. By July, $95,000 had been raised (on-line auction and Barney for Mayor fundraising) and the Christmas tree auction alone brought in $35,000 in just December...plus there were quite a few other fundraisers which when added amounted to at least $140,000 total raised for the year. Yes, it was 2007, which isn't too far in the past. But it sounds like if those were prudent with the operational budget, the year should've ended with a surplus.

Is money earned that year only applied to that year? Is there no rollover? Did the Club's final earnings just get them out of debt for the year and begin the new year (2008) with a balance of zero or just enough to be open one month (January)?

Is the Club completely in the hole or in debt right now as it sits boarded up? Just wondering.

Since Harry Baker ended his 5 year monetary support (2003, 5yrs ago?), has the Club ever had to shut down operations temporarily due to lack of funding or is this a first?

[rimalicious]

Thank for having so much interest in what is going on. I hope that interest, for you and others, translates into action when it comes to pledging our own time and dollars for the sake of this cause.

The numbers that you are quoting are impressive and 2007 was a great year. The $35K from the Tree Auction included the $15k that we paid out to other participating charities. Our Net was $20K. Yes, much of what we raised in 2007 was used to get caught up on bills rather than to get ahead. We have been living "month to month" so to speak for most of the year. We will be sharing more detailed financials with the Sierra Star and hope they are able to publish them.

Fundraising takes an incredible amount of time and energy, and money, to be successful. If we were receiving continuous pledges (as opposed to one-time donations) and grant money (which we have applied for unsuccessfuly to this point) I think we would still be open. Those are things we will continue to work on in the future.

We are not in debt right now. Basically, what we have is what we owe so if we would have continued operating it would have put us in debt.

As I said, this was a very difficult decision to make and it was not made lightly.

[oakhurstleaf]

Rima,

I sent you a private message.

[rimalicious]

I was just informed that Oak Creek Intermediate students are planning a positive and peaceful demonstration at the Harry H Baker Boys & Girls Club during their 9:30 am break from school tomorrow morning. They will be expressing their sorrow and asking the community for help to re-open.

[Dodgergirl]

I was just informed that Oak Creek Intermediate students are planning a positive and peaceful demonstration at the Harry H Baker Boys & Girls Club during their 9:30 am break from school tomorrow morning. They will be expressing their sorrow and asking the community for help to re-open.


Has this been approved by Admin? Weird that they would let them off campus (I know how close the proximity is) for those 20 minutes.

[rimalicious]

The info I got was 3rd hand so I do not know. Perhaps they are not even leaving the campus and are just going to gather on campus "near" the Club? Not sure.

[Dodgergirl]

I only ask because I work there often and I know if the kids leave campus, they receive a citation... Citations aren't too terrible, some kids collect them, ;) but if they're in the 8th grade and receive (I think) 3 in the entire year, they are left out of many 8th grade activities... I'm glad I'm not gonna be there tomorrow, cause I really hate it when I have to explain they won't be going to Catalina.., etc... because of a choice they made.
If you have a child at OCI, make sure they have permission to attend this gathering, so they don't hurt themselves academically.
Additionally, get together with other parents and plan a demonstration out of school hours if the boys & girls club means a lot to you.

[rimalicious]

Great points Dodge .. thanks!

[oakhurstleaf]

According to my daughter, an OCI student, the school is involved with the planned demonstration/petition...this she found out from a friend tonight on the phone. My OCI student was home sick today. Horrible virus...hit everyone of us! I've been home sick too. Stay well.

[rimalicious]

Thank you. That is great to know!

[rimalicious]

To our valued supporters of the Harry H. Baker Boys & Girls Club:

We would like to inform you that, due to lack of funding, the Club has temporarily closed its doors. Our communities, and especially our youth, are experiencing a great loss from this unfortunate, but necessary decision. Our fundraising efforts have involved much work and commitment from board members and the community, but have barely covered monthly operational costs. We are working very diligently to restructure and are greatly increasing our efforts to secure more stable means of funding in order to re-open the Club and keep it operating at a successful level. We continue to apply for grants, seek new fundraising opportunities, and most importantly communicate the need for sustaining pledges from members of our community.

Since opening our doors to the youth of our mountain area in 1997, our membership has expanded to almost 500, with daily attendance of 50-100 boys and girls. The membership fee is only $10 a year per child. The actual cost per child greatly exceeds that amount! As a member of the Boys & Girls Club of America, our club provides after school and weekend activities designed to help young people, especially those from disadvantaged circumstances, to realize their full potential as productive, responsible and happy youth. These children are the future of our community and we ask that they be made a priority to all of us.

If you would like to join us in making the youth of the Oakhurst Area and the Boys & Girls Club a priority, we ask that you please commit to a monthly, quarterly, or annual pledge by completing and returning the a pledge form. <b>To download a pledge form, click on "Files" on the menu bar to the left at our website.</b> If you would like to volunteer, or have questions or suggestions, please contact us at supportbgclub@sti.net.


Thank you for your continued support. Together we can make a difference.


With Gratitude,
Harry H. Baker Boys & Girls Club Board of Directors


Post Office Box 2757
Oakhurst, CA 93644
(559) 642-4600
supportbgclub@sti.net
www.supportbgclub.com

[rimalicious]

I was just informed that Oak Creek Intermediate students are planning a positive and peaceful demonstration at the Harry H Baker Boys & Girls Club during their 9:30 am break from school tomorrow morning. They will be expressing their sorrow and asking the community for help to re-open.


The "demonstration" actually turned out to be a brainstorming session by the kids, faciliatated by the principal. I was able to attend and it was INCREDIBLE to listen to those kids talk about why the Club (they call it "BGC") is important to them and what they can do to help.

[Dodgergirl]

(This post was originally my response in another thread)

Rima, I for one, would love to volunteer to help out the Club, but I am still concerned with the
structure of the Club itself. I was on the board when we opened a B&G's Club at Calvert Elementary in Woodland Hills more than 10 years ago. That club had strict rules and by laws that were not compromised.
My question to you is, once the money is raised, is the Club going to reopen with the same staff and rules (or lack thereof)? I for one, find it unnerving to realize my 10 year old will tell me "I'm going to the Club after school", but in reality, they popped into the Club, then down to the river to hang with friends, then oops, hung with the wrong element and now I'm being called by police that my child (who I thought was being supervised) is now in custody because they chose to leave with an older group and shoplifted from Rite Aid.. (Most of you know I don't have a ten year old, but this was relayed to me from a local parent).
The Club is a great idea, but it needs a solid plan. And solid people to enforce that plan.
Rima, this is neither an attack at you or the Club, but real questions as to the safety and guidance of our youth. I would love to sit down and work with a board, but not just to raise money to reopen, to create a solid plan that would protect out youth and the community. Currently we have most Teachers at all of the local schools against the Club. Why? From what I've been listening to, the lack of supervision and control at the Club. Maybe we could address that and all come together to build a better place for our youth.

JMHO

[rimalicious]

I do not want to get into a debate about the merrits of the Club. This is not directed at you Dodge, but my intent is to help re-open the Club and if there are people who do not want it re-opened, do not what to support it, or do not want their child to be a member, that is their choice. I would be happy to respond to anyone who has further questions about the operations of the Club on an individual basis

It is a fact that some children and families do not have a choice and those children have the greatest need for the Club to re-open. This is not to say that other children cannot also benefit from the Clubs programs and activities.

This previous thread may answer some of your questions:
http://www.yosemitearea.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3133&highlight=boys+girls+club

[Dodgergirl]

Never asked for a debate, just a few questions answered. After all, if I am going to support a cause, i would like to know the standards of such cause...I understand your main goal is to have it reopened, and that is a good thing. My question, which may have not been clear, is.. Will the Club be restructured in any way? I know there would be so much more support (which would help the Club with Funds and Volunteers) if there were a few concrete rules that were followed. Is there a plan for a committee to follow up on any such plan? or is there just a fund raising committee? Thanks

Oh and the example in my previous post was from a parent who thought his child was being supervised, he didn't understand that the children could, essentially, sign themselves out. This is one of the main concerns for parents/teachers/community. He wanted his child to be a member, that was his choice, but didn't get the whole picture until problems arose.

[oakhurstleaf]

I would love to sit down and work with a board, but not just to raise money to reopen, to create a solid plan that would protect out youth and the community. Currently we have most Teachers at all of the local schools against the Club. Why? From what I've been listening to, the lack of supervision and control at the Club. Maybe we could address that and all come together to build a better place for our youth.
JMHO

Dodgergirl...You should sit down and work with the board...as well as other teachers and parents who share your concerns. I don't see anything wrong or attacking or even debatable about improving a situation or an existing plan. There's always room for improvement.

Personally, my kids are members of the Club (ages 8, 10, and 11) and have been members for over a year. However, my kids do/did not go to the Club on a regular basis (ie daily or necessarily weekly). 2 of my children go to Wasuma and would only really go there to burn off some energy (skateboarding)...my other child goes to OCI and would really only go there on the bi-monthly minimum days afterschool and stay an hour, mainly just hanging out with friends and using the computer. But I personally know many kids of many age ranges who go there or went there everyday afterschool because that was the only place to go...and now they have no place to go.

The Club has members ranging in age from 6-16...and of course, as a parent I know children ages 6-12 (12-depending on maturity) shouldn't be able to leave the fenced in area to wander freely....and potentially get themselves in some kind of mischief or fall victim to trouble. Just not wise. I recall when I signed my kids up at the Club, I was asked if my children were allowed (by me) to leave the premises while they are signed in/there...I stated no. But perhaps, the supervision is such that kids can slip in and out...even while signed in. If this situation can be improved and I don't see why not...it should be.

[rimalicious]

I assume there will be restructuring when the Club re-opens, however, the Oakhurst Board of Directors does not control staffing or operations.

When a child signs up to become a member, a staff member goes over the membership application, inlcuding rules and a specific section about what you are referring to. If I can find a copy I can send one to you.

I hope that helps.

Maybe these posts should be moved to the other thread so that this one can focus on the volunteer request?

[Dodgergirl]

Cool/ Here's the new thread....

[Sandman]

I merged this topic into the original thread Rima was referring to...

[Mysteefied]

I would love to help with the club too, however I also had some issues, which is why I don't allow my kids there.

A few years back I was pretty horrified that when I would stop by to check on them, kids would be making out beside the building, the staff was all inside, other kids were picking on the so called less popular ones, and little ones, even as young as kindergarden/first grade were signed in then took walks down to the creek and stuff, It upset me to think what could happen to them, but then if I brought it up to staff, I was reminded that they can come and go as they please. so...my kids don't go there anymore. That's my personal decision.
I'm sure there are many kids that go there and there are no issues, I'm just a little stricker than that with mine, and being that I'm a total worry wart, I don't keep them in situations where I feel something bad could easily happen.
I look forward to hearing about a restructure in the program and at that time would love to vollunteer my time.
Just my 2 cents

[oakhurstleaf]

This may be long, so bear with me....

With any organization, there is always room for improvement and possibly refiguring, restructuring, and reorganizing....and with the Boys and Girls Club, I'm sure there is no exception.

Let's keep in mind though what the purpose and function of the Club is, or is not. It is not a daycare facility nor your babysitter. It is not the police. It is an intended safe place. There is staff on duty (paid and volunteer) to monitor and supervise the activities that fall in line with the mission of the Boys and Girls Club of America. There are rules of conduct and consequences for breeches in conduct which are to be enforced on the Club's premises. Members of the Club and their parents/guardians sign a contractual agreement with regard to these rules. It is a mutual understanding between the Club, it's members and the member's parents.

I totally understand Mysteefied's concern that there was not a single staff member supervising the outdoor activities and seeing a 6 yr old frolicking near the river (outside the Club's premises and Dodgergirl's example of a child leaving the Club to get in a mess of trouble with some older kids. There should be supervision on the outdoor grounds of the Club monitoring the children's interactions and activities to ensure all are following the Club's rules. Not all children make good choices...and often intervention by a trusted authority is needed. As far as outside the Club's boundary fence, that's not really the Club's responsibility....however, there should be a certain perimeter around the established boundary that should at least be of their concern....and yes, if teens are making out or worse, having a fist-fight (one of many examples), right to the side of the building or within
earshot or field of vision...it should be dealt with. When a child signs out and leaves after making a 5 minute appearance...the choices they make and make within the next few hours before their parents get off work is not the fault of the Club.

Y'see, a lot of these problems with our youth arise from choices. I'll be the first to say, kids can make very stupid decisions. However, I will be the first to say that not all children need to be on a tight leash...in fact, some can go without a leash. We, as parents, should know our own children best. Hopefully, we have given them the tools to make good choices. If we tell our child they are to stay at the Club (within the fenced walls) until we pick them up...will they stay? Choice. If some other children are cussing, bullying, harming others, etc, will our children alert the staff on duty immediately? Choice. You get what I am saying?

Almost everyday, I see children making choices or doing things I would not stand by and let my child do. Very often I have to remind my children that just because so 'n so does such and his parents are okay with it, doesn't mean you can do it. They might not care about this or that, but I do. Period.

Bottom line about the Club...it does what it does. And yes, it could do more. It is what it is, and it is more for some and less for others. Often, with the kids, we as parents have to look at ourselves and ask whether we have given our children the tools to make good choices. Do they listen to us? Do they follow our rules? Can they follow the Club's rules? We can't control what other kids do...and yes, it's not easy controlling what our own do at times. I imagine it's not the easiest task for the Club to be in control of everyone all the time either.

[Dodgergirl]

Nicely expressed, Oakhurstleaf. My point is that many Boys and Girls Club sites have a rule that the parent signs the child out, no leaving at will. This would alleviate many of the concerns of many Teachers and quite a few Parents. Are we just to lazy to walk the few feet to sign out our kids? Is their safety that negotiable? I am just as guilty, but I would call the Club to send Davy out when I went to pick him up.
We trust our Children with the teachers every day, but when they have the opinion of regulating children at an after school club, suddenly their opinion isn't as important. I would venture to say many of the teachers know our kids better in many ways than we do.
And then there is the staffing issue, they are hired to supervise, but possibly need training in just that before the lives of our youth are put in their hands...
I am familiar with the contract, I have a teenager who was going there until last year.

[citizen]

I would also like to point out that similar problems exist with local church youth groups. I have heard stories where parents drop their kids off at youth groups and the kids hang out in the parking lot with no supervision or leave the property. I think it is important that the parent explains the importance of following the rules to the kids. And of course, parents should set a good example by following the rules themselves. You should be able to trust that your kids will stay on the property. If you find out your child leaves the property, there should be consequences. If you cant trust your child to stay on the property, you probably need to invest in childcare services instead of sending them to the Boys and Girls club or church function. I feel that the Boys and Girls club should not be used as a daycare, rather a privilege for the kids that will follow the rules. As oakhurstleaf explained, some kids do not need a leash. Some kids will listen to their parents and follow the rules. I feel that the kids that need a leash should not be allowed to go to the club. It sets a bad example for the kids that are their following the rules. And of course, older kids should have more privileges than the young ones. I don't see any problems with a 15 year old signing them self out. However, a 7 year old shouldn't be allowed to go down to the river. A parent should be called at that point and club privileges should be suspended or revoked. Perhaps a gate keeper is needed? That seems like a simple enough resolution. I'm sure the club would have no problem doing that if the funding is available. So I think it's time to focus on fundraising and once the club is open, parents can ask for a gate person or better yet... donate some time themselves to be the gate keeper.

[oakhurstleaf]

I don't see a problem with parents being required to sign out their kids...most especially the younger kids (ages 6-12). I'm not saying it wouldn't be good for the older kids...just that it may not be as feasible. Or maybe not as necessary. Yeah, it's been a long time since you and I were teenagers....and I know times are different, are they really? Maybe we grew up in different environments. But when I was a teen, I was trekking all over the place with my friends. We were hopping the OCTD bus with all our beach gear and going to the beach with no adult supervision but the lifeguard on duty. I think teenagers are just more independent in general...they can sort of navigate their own comings and goings while checking in with Mom. They're all carrying cell phones now, aren't they? They can bike on over to the club and bike themselves home for dinner type of thing. With friends preferably. Again, I think it depends on the kid or teenager and how tight of leash they need or you feel they need.

And also...with or without a Boys and Girls Club, it's evident to me that there are unsupervised kids loose on the streets of Oakhurst.



Nicely expressed, Oakhurstleaf. My point is that many Boys and Girls Club sites have a rule that the parent signs the child out, no leaving at will. This would alleviate many of the concerns of many Teachers and quite a few Parents. Are we just to lazy to walk the few feet to sign out our kids? Is their safety that negotiable? I am just as guilty, but I would call the Club to send Davy out when I went to pick him up.
We trust our Children with the teachers every day, but when they have the opinion of regulating children at an after school club, suddenly their opinion isn't as important. I would venture to say many of the teachers know our kids better in many ways than we do.
And then there is the staffing issue, they are hired to supervise, but possibly need training in just that before the lives of our youth are put in their hands...
I am familiar with the contract, I have a teenager who was going there until last year.

[Dodgergirl]

I feel that the kids that need a leash should not be allowed to go to the club.

That kinda goes against Boys and Girls Club policy...

From their website...

Our Mission is the Movement's Reason for Being

To enable all young people, especially those who need us most, to reach their full potential as productive, caring, responsible citizens.

A Boys & Girls Club Provides

A safe place to learn and grow...

Ongoing relationships with caring, adult professionals...

Life-enhancing programs and character development experiences...

Hope and opportunity.

http://www.bgca.org/whoweare/mission.asp

In every community, boys and girls are left to find their own recreation and companionship in the streets. An increasing number of children are at home with no adult care or supervision. Young people need to know that someone cares about them.

Boys & Girls Clubs offer that and more. Club programs and services promote and enhance the development of boys and girls by instilling a sense of competence, usefulness, belonging and influence.

Boys & Girls Clubs are a safe place to learn and grow – all while having fun. They are truly The Positive Place For Kids.
http://www.bgca.org/whoweare/

[citizen]

I'm not saying don't give them a chance. I just think every action has a consequence and kids that break rules need to have club rights suspended or revoked. I'm sure that is in the contract as well.

[rimalicious]

I'm not saying don't give them a chance. I just think every action has a consequence and kids that break rules need to have club rights suspended or revoked. I'm sure that is in the contract as well.

Kids who break the rules can and do have membership priveliges suspended or revoked but leaving the premesis is not one of those rules.

[citizen]

I guess I have a lot of questions. You mentioned that kids can sign themselves in and out on their own. Is a staff member present when the kid signs in and out or is this just a list on a table somewhere? Is the date and time recorded? Can parents get a copy of the log for their child? Is there something in place that prevents a child from signing in and leaving? Is someone at a gate to make sure they sign out when they leave and sign in when they arrive?

If the answer is no to any of these questions, perhaps a clock-in and clock-out time card system could be put in place at the gate? Then a parent could get a copy of that on request. It would be up to them to discipline their kid if they clocked out too soon. The club would simply provide the info if the parents request it. This could also come in handy if a child comes up missing or something.

It seems like a liability issue waiting to happen if the kids can come and go as they please without even sigining in and out.

I understand that the first priority is getting the club open again. I feel that it is better to have the club than to not have the club, even if no changes are made. Parents just need to understand what the rules are and they need to talk to their children about what they can and can't do while there. If the parents think their child may not respect the rules they are given, they shouldn't send their kid there.

After the club reopens, however, I would like to see some restructuring to make sure finances are spent appropriately and it is a safe environment for kids.

[oakhurstleaf]

A staff member is generally present (whether right near the sign-in sheet or in the same room) when children sign in and out. The date is recorded at the top of the sheet. The time is not recorded (at least not by the children). Parents could probably request a copy of the log...or at least look at it. There's nothing in place it seems from preventing a child from leaving after signing in....unless a staff member sees they're leaving without signing out. Not sure if they would prevent the child from leaving exactly. Not necessarily someone at the gate, though there is generally in my experience, a staff member outside. Children are required to enter the first portable, closest to the gate to sign in and out and yes, there is a staff member present.

I believe in the parent-signed contracts, the Boys and Girls club is released from most liabilities. So it is pretty much up to the parents and children to understand and follow the policies set forth, and the Club to enforce them.

I agree that what's important is getting the B&G Club re-opened even with all it's warts...in my opinion, the good does outweigh the negatives....but there should be open willingness for improvement. It is about and for the kids...and anything to make them safer and better off should be strongly considered. I hope they can aquire more volunteers (pre-screened, of course).

As far as re-opening and funds...I'd also like to see PG&E (the biggest money maker up here next to SierraTel) absorb the Club's costs for electric, maybe Emadco give them free dumpster service and the port-a-potty people give free serviced port-a-potties too. Maybe a couple free furnaces to replace the old ones from somewhere....I mean these are just some basic things that our only community, non-profit asset for our youth needs to function! Yes, there are other costs...but if you can barely pay your utilities, then you cannot survive. They need insurance and a multitude of other things...and I really hope the Club can pull through.

Where I grew up, we didn't have a B&G Club...but we were in an incorporated city with the whole Department of Parks and Recreation. We had our own Central Park with commuunity center...arts/crafts, basketball courts, tetherball, playground, ping-pong, shuffleboard, Karem (?) board. There was no signing in and out, or safe gated arena for this. There was a staff present to oversee operations with limited supervision....but it was a place for kids to go. A community offering, property tax paid.

This is a different situation, yes. The Club serves different purposes for different kids....and we as a community are on all accounts responsible for keeping it going and we should have some say in how it will best serve it's purpose while still following the basic mission of the Club. So if it's a gatekeeper? Higher quality staffing? Whatever it may be...be vocal, talk to the right people, get involved. Just talking about it here...you are involved.

[rimalicious]

An electronic sign in system = $$$
More staff coverage = $$$ Volunteers have been difficult to obtain and are inconsistent but we are working on that.

We have asked, unsuccessfully, for furnace replacements from multiple local companies. We do have quotes from multiple local companies on repairs and replacements which obviously = $$$

We were able to get a large discount on the portable bathrooms by switching vendors. The cost went from $800/mo to $200/mo. Permanent bathrooms, even with donated plumbing and fixtures, would be about $35K. $$$

Again, I cannot comment on the operations of the Club because I am not involved in those. Questions about the policies and operations of the Club can be directed to the Regional Office in Fresno. Contact info can be found here: http://www.bgclubfc.org/

I hope that helps.

[Mysteefied]

I'm very interested and glad to hear all the things put forth by everyone, while reading, I see alot of about how its all for the kids, but my kids didn't feel safe or comfortable there, they were scared a lot of the time of who was going to harrass them next, and while I was sure to talk to them about not leaving and totally trust them not to leave, they finally got me to agree to not make them go anymore after just a few weeks.

I know that many, many kids enjoy themselves there, unfortunatly, mine didn't and Being that I wasn't comfortable with it anyways, it didn't work out for our family. I'm glad to hear there are others who had better experiences.

[Dodgergirl]

After reading the website, I wonder how well #3 is followed at our site...


Who We Are
Why We're Special

Four key characteristics define the essence of a Boys & Girls Club. All are critical in exerting positive impact on the life of a child:

1. Dedicated Youth Facility
The Boys & Girls Club is a place – an actual neighborhood-based building – designed solely for youth programs and activities.

2. Open Daily
The Club is open every day, after school and on weekends, when kids have free time and need positive, productive outlets.

3. Professional Staff
Every Club has full-time, trained youth development professionals, providing positive role models and mentors. Volunteers provide key supplementary support.

4. Available/Affordable to All Youth
Clubs reach out to kids who cannot afford, or may lack access to, other community programs. Dues are low, averaging $5 to $10 per year.

http://www.bgca.org/whoweare/special.asp

[oakhurstleaf]

I believe those trained youth development professionals were Trika and Sheila (I'm positive I spelled their names wrong!)...and Brian too. At least one of them was always on site during hours of operation along with teen staff and volunteer(s). When I first signed my kids up for the B&G Club, I had substantive conversations with both Trika and Sheila separately...in other words, they got to know me and my kids and we them. I've met Brian and teen staff too...brief chat, but overall, I was content with the way things were run.

I don't know their exact "credentials" or their specific youth development training...but I believe they'd be the ones.

The Club was closed on Sundays.

After reading the website, I wonder how well #3 is followed at our site..

2. Open Daily
The Club is open every day, after school and on weekends, when kids have free time and need positive, productive outlets.

3. Professional Staff
Every Club has full-time, trained youth development professionals, providing positive role models and mentors. Volunteers provide key supplementary support.

http://www.bgca.org/whoweare/special.asp

[oakhurstleaf]

My daughter had a long-lived bad time at elementary school since we moved up here just over 3 years ago....just miserable and very uncomfortable. My boys had no problems at same school and still go there. My daughter started at OCI this year and we half expected that the grass might not be any greener...but she's made so many friends and in general, she loves going to school there. Very fortunate. I guess my point is that every experience is individual.

I'm very interested and glad to hear all the things put forth by everyone, while reading, I see alot of about how its all for the kids, but my kids didn't feel safe or comfortable there, they were scared a lot of the time of who was going to harrass them next, and while I was sure to talk to them about not leaving and totally trust them not to leave, they finally got me to agree to not make them go anymore after just a few weeks.

I know that many, many kids enjoy themselves there, unfortunatly, mine didn't and Being that I wasn't comfortable with it anyways, it didn't work out for our family. I'm glad to hear there are others who had better experiences.

[oakhurstleaf]

I found this at the Boys and Girls Club of Kirkland, WA website....

"Children, ages 6-18, are welcomed and supervised in the facility on terms of safety and citizenship. Our staff does not grant permission to kids to leave the Club, nor do we insist that they stay. The decision as to when a child arrives and leaves the Club, and with whom they do this is a matter handled between parent and child. Children not mature enough to capably handle this responsibility should have the close supervision of other, more appropriate programs."

I think this is pretty standard policy at most every B&G Club....I don't think having a required parental sign-out at pick-up is the norm.

[mary oleary]

wasn't Harry Baker ( aka Sierratel) the corporate sponsor?

Why did they drop the bys and girls club sponsorship?

There may be other valuable resources/ programs available - such as "Club Yes"

http://www.maderacoe.k12.ca.us/services/educational_services/after_school/

[oakhurstleaf]

Yes, Harry Baker was pretty much the sole supporter of the Boys and Girls Club from it's inception in 1998 until 2003. The first five years was his commitment, and after that...well, it was up to the Board of Directors of the Club to figure out how to keep it going...finding donors and fundraising, applying for grants. I believe Harry Baker has continued some level of support whether it be computers and DSL and whatnot, but his "sponsorship" ended in 2003. There is about $100 million in grants available for the Boys and Girls Clubs (about 2500 total in the U.S.)...but often those grants go to areas where the community is largely impoverished and children disadvantaged. Applications for grants are not always approved...and though one might get lucky one year, next year might not. So not always dependable.

As far as Club Yes (afterschool program held on school sites), this is government funded. Considering our own state funding cuts in education, I think it's highly unlikely that Bass Lake School District will be starting one anytime soon. There is an afterschool program at Wasuma (similar to Club Yes, I imagine)...but like most of these, there is often a limited number of students who can be in the program, so it does leave some children out.

Bottom line, in Oakhurst, our kids are jipped on services....the Boys and Girls Club met a need for many children. It's gone now. It's really up to our community to bring it back. We really need some big players to come up to bat.



wasn't Harry Baker ( aka Sierratel) the corporate sponsor?

Why did they drop the bys and girls club sponsorship?

There may be other valuable resources/ programs available - such as "Club Yes"

http://www.maderacoe.k12.ca.us/services/educational_services/after_school/

[rimalicious]

Thanks for a great reply on this oakhurstleaf. Allow me to clarify Harry's contributions. Harry Baker donated $100,000 per year for five years. This was the not the sole support of the Club and the community did an incredible job of matching his donations in the first few years the Club was opened. The Club was operating for 10 years before it closed in February. Sierra Telephone does still contribute with in-kind donations as well as participating as a sponsor in all of the Club's fundraising events.

Bingo on the grants and the after school programs leaf. We do however continue to actively apply for grants.

Again, these posts should probably be moved to the main BGC thread since this one involves a plea for area businesses to sponsor their own fundraiser for the Club.

Speaking of which ... Mat, are there any raffle tickets left for sale?

Yes, Harry Baker was pretty much the sole supporter of the Boys and Girls Club from it's inception in 1998 until 2003. The first five years was his commitment, and after that...well, it was up to the Board of Directors of the Club to figure out how to keep it going...finding donors and fundraising, applying for grants. I believe Harry Baker has continued some level of support whether it be computers and DSL and whatnot, but his "sponsorship" ended in 2003. There is about $100 million in grants available for the Boys and Girls Clubs (about 2500 total in the U.S.)...but often those grants go to areas where the community is largely impoverished and children disadvantaged. Applications for grants are not always approved...and though one might get lucky one year, next year might not. So not always dependable.

As far as Club Yes (afterschool program held on school sites), this is government funded. Considering our own state funding cuts in education, I think it's highly unlikely that Bass Lake School District will be starting one anytime soon. There is an afterschool program at Wasuma (similar to Club Yes, I imagine)...but like most of these, there is often a limited number of students who can be in the program, so it does leave some children out.

Bottom line, in Oakhurst, our kids are jipped on services....the Boys and Girls Club met a need for many children. It's gone now. It's really up to our community to bring it back. We really need some big players to come up to bat.

[Sandman]

I just got word that we have about 50 raffle tickets available. Someone had some that didn't sell. Come by Oakhurst Computers to get a ticket!

[rimalicious]

I just got word that we have about 50 raffle tickets available. Someone had some that didn't sell. Come by Oakhurst Computers to get a ticket!

50 left!!! Uh oh! I will spread the word!

[oakhurstleaf]

Threat of having to shut down the Boys and Girls Club was paramount less than a year ago...Of course, it's been closed now for about 4 weeks due to lack of funding. I thought I'd share this article as it does underline the emphasis on how the collective "we" can help.

This article from the Sierra star - April 11, 2007

My Thoughts
By Dr. Bill Atwood


There is real danger approaching fast. The crew is in need of a life jacket right away. Under these circumstances who among us would not throw a lifeline out to help in the rescue?

Well, there is a group in real danger of sinking and sinking fast. It's our local Boys and Girls Club, right here in Eastern Madera County.

Those 400+ kids who need help the most and have the fewest resources need the place to stay open...and funding is rapidly being depleted!

This community responded a few years ago when the need for a Boys and Girls Club was first floated to the community. Service clubs and individuals jumped on board to help establish the facility.

Local businesses were right there with thousands of dollars to support the club. Harry H. Baker made a one-time pledge of several hundreds of thousands of dollars and made good on his pledge. Many of us contributed to the cause and we smiled because we had done the job!

In little time another victory was won by a small town meeting the needs of its neediest citizens. I have often stated that one of the easiest things to do is to raise a large sum of money for a great cause in a small town.

Eastern Madera County did that with the Boys and Girls Club.

The board of directors were selected; and the club was off to a great start.

Local Honorary Mayor Brian Gearhart, a club employee, helps those who come to the club to do their homework and hear the lessons of good citizenship from someone close to their own age.

The facilities are first-rate and the staff has the heart for the task. We have let them down. We only did half the job. We built it and they came. We haven't provided the funds to keep the doors open. Did we just forget or did we tire of our resolve to help the youngsters in need of our help?

I doubt that the citizens of this area have it in them to lose their resolve. I think we just forgot that it not only takes funds to build a place but it takes money to run it as well.

I am not pointing fingers since I am guilty as charged of forgetting the club. Oh, every once in a while I bought a raffle ticket or made a contribution, but my investment hasn't been enough to keep the doors open a day, let alone a week or a month.

A buck here and a buck there just hasn't cut the mustard.

The chips are down folks and the club and the kids need us...they need us today! In fact; they probably needed us last month, but we were not listening -- or even aware.

If it closes it may just close for good. But it won't be good for the kids or for the community.

The kids served by the club will be looking for something to do and they will find trouble and get into it.

They will loiter around our stores and in the parking lots. They will hang out in areas and crowd out others with their activities. They will become an irritant because they will be bored.

Or - we can continue to support a place for them to enjoy. A place to find some positives and a place to learn and to grow.

Not every kid who visits a Boys and Girls Club turns into a saint and I am sure many might have a story to tell about a kid they knew who wasn't helped by the Boys and Girls Clubs across this great land of ours.

But for every kid who did not learn from the club there are many, many, many more who gained from meeting the kids and adults with the"right stuff" at the Boys and Girls Club.

One thing is sure--if there is no club there never will be help there for the kids who would benefit from the existence of that fine organization.

So we have a choice in this matter and your choice really matters. We support the club with our dollars or we vote it out of business by withholding our cash.

It is that simple.

Cash on the barrelhead. The kids are not leaving our area. They either have the club or they have the streets.

The current cost to incarcerate a prisoner in the California penal system exceeds $40,000 per year.

Why are we willing to spend it on that end but not take a chance on the other side of the equation-before they get into trouble?

I think we all assumed that somebody else was going to handle the day-to-day expense for the rest of us. We were wrong.

We have to handle the expense. It won't be easy digging into our already taxed wallets and purses to find a few bucks extra each month to save a kid from ruin but if the job was easy anybody could do it. The trick is in pulling together as a huge group, both business communities and the private sector.

We can and must pledge financial support right now, today, this minute. Contributions may be sent to: Boys & Girls Club, P.O. Box 2757 Oakhurst, CA 93644.

One thousand of us with $100 or 2,000 with $50 or 4,000 with $25 can raise $100,000 without any one of us going without a meal.

If you are willing to gamble on a kid in this community, then ante up.

I'm in!

[Patagoniamaniac]

I think that they should charge a higher fee for the kids per year. I only paid $10 for the year for my kid to go which I felt was extremley affordable. I only had my kids go there when I was running late from a Fresno shop. Imagine what the parents are having to pay now for child care,I feel bad for the ones who really can't afford it.. Many parents are now are allowing their kids to roam the neighborhood or become latch key kids. I've seen it myself....
I will contribute and help in anyway I can to keep the program going.

[oakhurstleaf]

It's not in keeping with the Boys and Girls Club policy. It's not really a tuition per se, but rather an annual membership due of $10, and I believe it's an additional $20 for the summer months when they have extended hours due to kids being out of school. Being that this is also a non-profit organization/service, the membership dues were not really designed to be significant. And furthermore, part of what the club is about is being

Available/Affordable to All Youth
Clubs reach out to kids who cannot afford, or may lack access to, other community programs. Dues are low, averaging $5 to $10 per year.

http://www.bgca.org/whoweare/special.asp

Increasing the dues wouldn't really help the Club stay open and it might leave some kids out and it's not in keeping with their policy. I say for those of us who could afford to pay more than the piddly $10...just donate it. Give them what you can afford and what you think it's worth for your kids and for your community's kids.





I think that they should charge a higher fee for the kids per year. I only paid $10 for the year for my kid to go which I felt was extremley affordable. I only had my kids go there when I was running late from a Fresno shop. Imagine what the parents are having to pay now for child care,I feel bad for the ones who really can't afford it.. Many parents are now are allowing their kids to roam the neighborhood or become latch key kids. I've seen it myself....
I will contribute and help in anyway I can to keep the program going.

[rimalicious]

Once again right on oakhurstleaf. Donations can be made at www.supportbgclub.com

The membership dues may increase when we re-open. That decision has not yet been made. If that happens, there also may be a sliding fee scale or scholarsips for families who cannot afford the new rates.

It's not in keeping with the Boys and Girls Club policy. It's not really a tuition per se, but rather an annual membership due of $10, and I believe it's an additional $20 for the summer months when they have extended hours due to kids being out of school. Being that this is also a non-profit organization/service, the membership dues were not really designed to be significant. And furthermore, part of what the club is about is being

Available/Affordable to All Youth
Clubs reach out to kids who cannot afford, or may lack access to, other community programs. Dues are low, averaging $5 to $10 per year.

http://www.bgca.org/whoweare/special.asp

Increasing the dues wouldn't really help the Club stay open and it might leave some kids out and it's not in keeping with their policy. I say for those of us who could afford to pay more than the piddly $10...just donate it. Give them what you can afford and what you think it's worth for your kids and for your community's kids.

[Patagoniamaniac]

. I say for those of us who could afford to pay more than the piddly $10...just donate it. Give them what you can afford and what you think it's worth for your kids and for your community's kids.

It was only a suggestion...no need to get snippy...I'm sure many parents wouldn't mind paying higher "Dues" than to be paying $250 + a week for childcare....

[rimalicious]

It was only a suggestion...no need to get snippy...I'm sure many parents wouldn't mind paying higher "Dues" than to be paying $250 + a week for childcare....


I don't think she was trying to be snippy at all. Just making a suiggestion on how people can help. Sometimes tone gets lost in the translation of text. :)

[Dodgergirl]

I was with a group yesterday and the subject of the Club came up. Is it true that it is grouped with Fresno County? that would be too bad, because if it were Madera County, a grant could be written and submitted here.... (just a thought)

Madera Co. seeks grant applicants
The Fresno Bee
02/26/08 23:50:41
The Madera County Board of Supervisors will begin accepting grant applications Saturday for shares in $1 million offered under last year's agreement between the county and the Picayune Rancheria of Chukchansi Indians.

The community grant program will allocate shares to Madera County government departments and agencies as well as schools and nonprofit organizations, said board spokesman Justin White.

Applications will be available on the Madera County Web site at madera-county.com and at the Board of Supervisors office, 200 W. 4th St., Madera.

The money comes from the tribe, which operates the Chukchansi Gold Resort & Casino. Ten yearly $1 million pledges were part of a $13 million agreement in February 2007 to settle a bitter development dispute between the tribe and the county.

Grant applications must be received by July 1. The Board of Supervisors will consider all complete applications and make recommendations to the Tribal Council. Grant requests must be $25,000 or more.

Information is available at madera-county.com or from Glenna Jarvis at (559) 662-6020 or Sharon Glisson at (559) 675-7717.

http://www.fresnobee.com/263/story/425048.html

[Dodgergirl]

I have been having some really interesting conversations with 7th graders today in class regarding BGC. Will post some of their comments later. Very interesting and observant stuff...

[GypsyGirl]

Greetings! The last I read the club still needs funding to keep doors open. Well down here (la county) I saw a commercial showing one of the local indian tribes supporting a b/g club in the area. They made that club location happen, when nothing else would work. I think it would be an awsome idea that would benefit everyone at the Oakhurst club. The kids need that club and the casino benifits in many ways! :) The Chukchansi tribe website (you can find on the Chukchansi casino page), shows how involved they are with the area and also with children, education and making a difference. Now, not being from the area and only reading about the club closing its door, I'm basically throwing this out there as an idea!! ya never know, doesn't hurt to look into it..ya think?? well, the sun is setting here in Long beach, everyone have a good night! Stay warm.

[oakhurstleaf]

Dodgergirl and Gypsygirl...very valid points about the Chukchansi tribe. Even though the Oakhurst Club is "affiliated" or listed with the Fresno County clubs. In essence, the Oakhurst B&G Club is affiliated with all the clubs around the country. It's still in Madera County, serving Madera County children...so why wouldn't grants generated from the Chukchansi Casino available for Madera County apply here? In fact, there's probably some Casino employees who live in Oakhurst and have children who are members of the Club. How close to the Casino can ya get?

Forgive me if I'm coming off snippety...

[rimalicious]

We are afilliated with Fresno because we are the only BGC in Madera County. We are eligible for the Chukchansi Grants and will be submitting applications for multiple projects (bathrooms, a/c system, etc) but their application excludes requests for operating expenses.

[BGW]

Tuesday, Mar. 04, 2008

County gets $496,996 grant to fight gangs

Money goes to Boys and Girls Club, county Workforce Investment agency.

By VICTOR A. PATTON
vpatton@mercedsun-star.com (vpatton@mercedsun-star.com)


Merced County is one of several areas picked to get state grants geared toward job training for at-risk youth and gang-violence prevention.
Of the $16.5 million in grants, Merced County is slated to receive $496,996 -- with $94,996 going toward the Merced Boys and Girls Club and $400,000 going toward the Merced County Department of Workforce Investment.
The grants are funded through the California Gang Reduction, Intervention and Prevention Initiative (CalGRIP) -- a program that uses state and federal funds to help local antigang efforts.
Andrea Baker, director of the county work force investment agency, said the money will go toward providing job, vocational and counseling services to juvenile offenders ages 16 to 18 enrolled at the Merced County Department of Probation's Bear Creek Academy.
Baker said the money expected to benefit about 25 students.
"It gives us an opportunity to pilot a new way of serving these young people," she said.
In applying for the funds, agency officials mentioned that gang activity and gang-related crime have a direct correlation with poverty levels as the population of Merced County grows.

Full Article: http://www.mercedsunstar.com/167/v-print/story/168001.html


I had wondered if one of the reasons our BCG had trouble with grant funding is it's location---not in an inner city. I had also wondered if Grantors had thought a small mountain community couldn't possibly have 'at risk' kids in need of direction....and then I wondered if Fresno County recieved some of this same grant money and since our club is affliated with Fresno County---how do we claim our fair share??

[rimalicious]

I had wondered if one of the reasons our BCG had trouble with grant funding is it's location---not in an inner city. I had also wondered if Grantors had thought a small mountain community couldn't possibly have 'at risk' kids in need of direction....and then I wondered if Fresno County recieved some of this same grant money and since our club is affliated with Fresno County---how do we claim our fair share??


Yes, rural locations are harder to receive funding for. We are also disqualified for some grants due to our "lack of diversity" and low poverty rate. Sad but true. Our Clubs are funded separately so there is no "fair share" from Fresno.

[rimalicious]

A revised pledge form has been added to the Files section of our website and is attached here.

A Trust Agreement is also now available for those who are concerned about making donations during this difficult time. If you wish your donation to be deposited in the Trust Account, you will receive a signed document including the following wording:

"Checks shall be made out to the Harry H. Baker Boys & Girls Club Trust Account. All deposits received shall be placed in the Trust Account at Premiere Valley Bank in Oakhurst.

Deposits are fully refundable only if the Harry H. Baker Boys & Girls Club fundraising is not completed (Club did not open and repairs were not made). The amount of the deposit is the amount that will be refunded. If a credit card is used, the service charge is non-refundable. Any interest that has accumulated shall go toward the marketing and fundraising expenses of the Boys & Girls Club of Oakhurst."

[Sandman]

From today's Sierra Star....

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[Ironhorse]

Very cool Sandman!

[Dodgergirl]

:applause: Nice, Matty...

[monkey]

Whadda handsome and nice guy!