Movie: World Trade Center (2006)

[Newcomer]

Do you plan on going to see the movie World Trade Center in a theatre

[BGW]

No plans on seeing it. One of my best friends lives in New York City (103rd near the park), she was in the area that day....just several blocks away; to this day she has not gone and seen the site, and has no plans of ever going. It is a subject not talked about to her, by her, or by any of her close friends that also live in the area.

I figure if this is their feeling on the subject I can respect that. Seeing the movie seems too much like slowing down to rubberneck a car wreck...no thanks.

[Pop-Rocks]

Originally posted by Pop-Rocks:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by bgirlsworld:
No plans on seeing it. One of my best friends lives in New York City (103rd near the park), she was in the area that day....just several blocks away; to this day she has not gone and seen the site, and has no plans of ever going. It is a subject not talked about to her, by her, or by any of her close friends that also live in the area.

I figure if this is their feeling on the subject I can respect that. Seeing the movie seems too much like slowing down to rubberneck a car wreck...no thanks. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


I feel almost the sameway with bgirlsworld. I have mixed feelings about them making a movie about it. I think it is still too early for them to make a movie about what happen with the World Trade Center. There is still a lot of people out there that there hearts are still not healed yet. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/cry.gif

[Ironhorse]

I won't go see it. I couldn't go see the one about the plane either, or watch the TV version. I have a video, In Memorium, that was made after 9-11. It supposedly shows what happened that day. Why do I say "supposedly", because I haven't been able to watch it, it's still shrink wrapped. But I saw it in Longs one day when I was in there, and I bought it. Why, something to do with when my grandkids are older, I want them to be able to watch it, to understand why that day was so horrible for a nation, because somehow, the history classes just don't convey that. Is it a revenge thing, nah, it's more of a "please understand just how costly and stupid intolerance of other races, countries, religions can be and war is never good, and terrorists are cowards".

[Kahlua Kid]

Originally posted by Ironhorse:
it's more of a "please understand just how costly and stupid intolerance of other races, countries, religions can be and war is never good, and terrorists are cowards".

Amen

[BGW]

Originally posted by Ironhorse:
I won't go see it. I couldn't go see the one about the plane either, or watch the TV version. I have a video, In Memorium, that was made after 9-11. It supposedly shows what happened that day. Why do I say "supposedly", because I haven't been able to watch it, it's still shrink wrapped. But I saw it in Longs one day when I was in there, and I bought it. Why, something to do with when my grandkids are older, I want them to be able to watch it, to understand why that day was so horrible for a nation, because somehow, the history classes just don't convey that. Is it a revenge thing, nah, it's more of a "please understand just how costly and stupid intolerance of other races, countries, religions can be and war is never good, and terrorists are cowards".

I can appreciate this. Christmas 2002 one of the gifts from my Mom was a beautifully leather bound book titled: "ONE NATION American remembers September 11, 2001" It is a photo-mentary from Life Magazine, and I am sure it has beeen tastefully and most sensatively put together...I wouldn't know; as I have yet to crack open the cover. I will, however, cherish this book for a long long time.

[Newcomer]

Originally posted by bgirlsworld:
No plans on seeing it. One of my best friends lives in New York City (103rd near the park), she was in the area that day....just several blocks away; to this day she has not gone and seen the site, and has no plans of ever going. It is a subject not talked about to her, by her, or by any of her close friends that also live in the area.

I figure if this is their feeling on the subject I can respect that. Seeing the movie seems too much like slowing down to rubberneck a car wreck...no thanks.


The movie is really based on honoring the fire fighters and Police that bravly gave their lives to save others. It does not focus on the act of terrorism itself. I think all think very highly of fire fighters and after they see this I think they will even more.

[Dodgergirl]

I plan on seeing it, but still have mixed emotions. We had a tape of a conference call from a smaller ISP to the ISP I was connected to down South. One minute the voice was there, the next, well, y'all know the story. The tape was destroyed out of consideration to the family involved.
I would like to see how much of the story is revealed on film. It's always been my argument that no matter who knew, who didn't act & who did act, these people are still gone...
And, I can always choose to walk out if necessary...

[Yosemite Joy]

It seems like a lot of you have contempt prior to investigation.

I haven't seen any of the United movies, though I plan to rent the one that was in theatres earlier in the year. From what I understand it is not about the World Trade Center or NYC at all.

I doubt I will see the Oliver Stone flick in theatres (I have been avoiding cinemas lately lol), but I will rent it on dvd.

I don't think it is like "slowing down to rubberneck"..
Is "Schindler's List" rubbernecking the Holocaust?

[Shrooms]

I still have Mixed feelings http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/confused.gif

[Yosemite Joy]

I just read that Stone is going to give a portion (albeit 10% which seems small) to WTC charities.

[BGW]

I don't think it is like "slowing down to rubberneck"..
Is "Schindler's List" rubbernecking the Holocaust?

Sorry, but I haven't seen Schindler's List either. We could chalk it up to me not being a movie person.

I was raised by the now, in my home town, Battlian Fire Chief...one thing I know is the life of a firefighter and will appreciate their most often super human attributes.

And, those of you that 'know-know' me also know I have a 'thing' for Guys in Law Enforcement uniforms. Shoot, I just watched on the 5 o'clock news two of my home town Sheriff buddies escorting the Gubenator around some generic almond orchard...so I get that part of it too.

I am just thinking that if some of the people that live there are still in a shock induced form of denial and have yet to see the site, then perhaps it is too soon for this movie. The veiwing walkway that was built around the WTC site was built to accommodate the tourists and not the locals.

How generous of Oliver Stone to donate 10% WTC Charities (she says w/ sarcasm) The Oklahoma Bombing of the Federal Building...also an act of terrorism and they are still trying/fighting for some sort of compensation for their murdered family members. And, YJ, I know that you can appreciate this: What monetary benefits do the widows and families of our fallen Soldiers receive?. The surviving spouse receives $833 a month until they remarry and each child receives $211 a month until exactly they day they turn 18 years of age.

Am thinking this will be the hole in the sand for this ostrich head.

[Yosemite Joy]

Originally posted by bgirlsworld:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I don't think it is like "slowing down to rubberneck"..
Is "Schindler's List" rubbernecking the Holocaust?

Sorry, but I haven't seen Schindler's List either. We could chalk it up to me not being a movie person.

I was raised by the now, in my home town, Battlian Fire Chief...one thing I know is the life of a firefighter and will appreciate their most often super human attributes.

And, those of you that 'know-know' me also know I have a 'thing' for Guys in Law Enforcement uniforms. Shoot, I just watched on the 5 o'clock news two of my home town Sheriff buddies escorting the Gubenator around some generic almond orchard...so I get that part of it too.

I am just thinking that if some of the people that live there are still in a shock induced form of denial and have yet to see the site, then perhaps it is too soon for this movie. The veiwing walkway that was built around the WTC site was built to accommodate the tourists and not the locals.

How generous of Oliver Stone to donate 10% WTC Charities (she says w/ sarcasm) The Oklahoma Bombing of the Federal Building...also an act of terrorism and they are still trying/fighting for some sort of compensation for their murdered family members. And, YJ, I know that you can appreciate this: What monetary benefits do the widows and families of our fallen Soldiers receive?. The surviving spouse receives $833 a month until they remarry and each child receives $211 a month until exactly they day they turn 18 years of age.

Am thinking this will be the hole in the sand for this ostrich head. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I shall not speak a word about how much the WTC widows receive because of the "terrorist" acts (no, she did NOT just use quotation marks) for fear of sounding Ann Coulter-ish.

As far as the widows of soldiers compenstation, are we surprised really? Military wives and children of fallen soldiers have always been left behind. (Not that Bush would know, as he hasn't gone to a single funeral....)

I have deviated completely from topic, sorry.

As far as OK City Bombing.. I was unaware of that situation. Has anyone ever made a feature film of that terrorist attack? Was there a made for tv movie?

Another thing I thought of when it came to this movie of topic. What were the reactions from the public prior to seeing "The Best Years Of Our Lives" back in 1946? I would love to know.

[Nas]

They took all the footage off my T.V.
Said it's too disturbing for you and me
It'll just breed anger that's what the experts say
If it was up to me I'd show it every day
Some say this country's just out looking for a fight
After 9/11 man I'd have to say that's right

CHORUS 1
Have you forgotten how it felt that day
To see your homeland under fire
And her people blown away?
Have you forgotten when those towers fell?
We had neighbors still inside
Going through a living hell
And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout Bin Laden
Have you forgotten?

I've been there with the soldiers
Who've gone away to war
And you can bet they remember
Just what they're fighting for

CHORUS 2
Have you forgotten all the people killed?
Some went down like heroes in that Pennsylvania field
Have you forgotten about our Pentagon?
All the loved ones that we lost
And those left to carry on
Don't you tell me not to worry about Bin Laden
Have you forgotten?

Have you forgotten?
Have you forgotten?


Darryl Worley - Lyrics - "Have you fogotten?" (http://darrylworley.musiccitynetworks.com/)

[Patagoniamaniac]

Has anyone seen that documentary "911" of the 2 reporters that were filming a firehouse crew when it all happened?..That was intense!..it had to be one of the most intense videos I have ever seen..unbelievable...
I still cry evertime I watch it..

[Dodgergirl]

I saw a documentary a couple years ago, it was very disturbing. You could actually hear the bodies thump as they hit the awnings & pavement. It was very intense, might be the same one.

[Summer]

Nope, I'm not going to see it. I think its too early to do this. But tell that to Hollywood. They will do or say anything to make a buck. And I mean everyone involved. As for documentaries, that would be fine if there wasn't a political slant to it. If it was just the facts, an unbiased film maker, but that rarely happens anymore. Just my opinion.

[Yosemite Joy]

Originally posted by Dodgergirl:
I saw a documentary a couple years ago, it was very disturbing. You could actually hear the bodies thump as they hit the awnings & pavement. It was very intense, might be the same one.

Yeah, that is the same one. Sheesh the doc was terrible (but in a not terrible way). I think it was a PBS documentary?

As far as documentaries taking a political stance, what is wrong with that? Jumping off the fence and into one arena or another is okay to do you know. And I believe in "unbiased" people as much as I believe in atheists and boogey monsters. No such thing. Everyone is bias.

Like I said before, I wonder what people thought of "The Best Years of Our Lives" back in 1946. Wasn't that a "little early" for a world war two movie? Geez, Hollywood [New York] will do anything for a buck.

[Patagoniamaniac]

no politics involved in this film..just 2 brothers that happened to a be filming a documentary on a ny firehouse..they filmed going to the towers and even being in the towers during the collapse..it's a remarkable film..and yes dodge thats the one..it was disturbing..especially the part of hearing the jumpers crash down..thats was horrible..but it's what happened..we shouldnt forget what those
a%#%#%'s did..ever...

[Summer]

no politics involved in this film..just 2 brothers that happened to a be filming a documentary on a ny firehouse..they filmed going to the towers and even being in the towers during the collapse..it's a remarkable film..and yes dodge thats the one..it was disturbing..especially the part of hearing the jumpers crash down..thats was horrible..but it's what happened..we shouldnt forget what those
a%#%#%'s did..ever...

Thanks for that info Pata. I didn't know that was what the film was about. I guess I'm thinking too much of the most recent documentaries that have such a political slant on them. I still don't think a lot of people are ready for this film, me being one, but again, there are of course people with different opinions. So be it. But I still stick with my opinion about Hollywood (or N.Y.) doing anything for a buck. They will and they do (MY opinion only). Oh and about 1946 - video was so new everyone was so amazed it could be done that not too many people considered the content. The Best Years of Our Lives is one of my most favorite films. Considering the year it was made and what people thought of it - I guess it depended on which side of the war you were on at that time!

[imkeith]

I think I'll check it out.

[Yosemite Joy]

Originally posted by Summer:

The Best Years of Our Lives is one of my most favorite films. Considering the year it was made and what people thought of it - I guess it depended on which side of the war you were on at that time!

Such a great film, this is my favorite WW2 movie. Not much has changed (which seems unbelieveable) as far as vets returning home from war.

[Yosemite Joy]

August 4, 2006 -- A year ago, August 2005, I reported Par amount was doing a movie about 9/11. I reported then it's a no-win.

We're talking sacred ground. The massacre heard 'round the world. Each month still brings new grief and lawsuits. Over the building. Over the plans. Over the illnesses. Over the proposed memorial site. Over the human remains at Staten Island's Fresh Kills dumpsite.


Feelings stay raw.


This movie's official premiere was last night. (See story, Page 23) With apologies to my excellent colleague Lou Lumenick, I know I am not a movie critic. I am, however, New York's watchdog. So here's my 411 on "World Trade Center":


It's lousy. Slow-moving and formulaic. At the Wall Street Journal's private Core Club screening earlier this week, not everyone lasted the two hours. One slugged it: "like a made-for-TV job." It hops back and forth from a scene of cops buried under rubble to a scene of families awaiting word, to a scene of computer-created devastation, to a scene of reaction shots. Back and forth. Back and forth.


Another comment: "Too soon for this. Maybe not for Californians or Belgians, but for New Yorkers." Stone clearly wanted to be first in immortalizing what will feed many films to come. Possibly that's the problem. New Yorkers infuse such pain and emotion into 9/11 that, for now, absolutely nothing could project onto a screen what still rips at our entrails. I hoped to speak about this with Oliver, who has always seemed a brilliant moviemaker, but his handlers are moving him around with a tweezer. Must be, like on that actual day itself, they, too, can smell death.


One more thing. In the opening sequence, policeman Nicolas Cage wakes in his bed in Goshen, N.Y., at 3:29 a.m. Cops on that shift leave the house in 15 minutes. Goshen to Manhattan for a cop driver on an empty highway at that hour is an hour and 15. His car radio announces: "It's Primary Day. The polls in New York are now open." The city polls open 6 a.m. He couldn't still be driving at 6 a.m. Those polls were not yet open. Figures, for accuracy, they probably utilized an actual tape of that morning's 1010 WINS broadcast but, then, the part they should've chosen would've announced, "The polls will open at 6 a.m."


When it came to filming, the city wouldn't allow Oliver Stone to close off those streets again and again, dress them with ash and debris and personal belongings and bleeding bodies, and more screams and agonies and horror and people jumping from windows. In agreement with Community Board One, film crews were permitted establishing shots, skyline shots, outdoor location shots only as close as Canal Street. The rest was newsreel footage, CGI graphics and whatever real pain they could fake in the studios in L.A.


At the time I reported that, to counter antipathy, Oliver Stone hired p.r. types who spin like silkworms. He met with families of victims. He co-opted many. In some cases, he won over their hostility by hiring them as "consultants."


I now report these Hollywood people out for a buck should have left us alone.


http://www.nypost.com/gossip/cindy/cindy.htm

[Newcomer]

I noticed that they said that 10% of the first 5 days proceeds will go to WTC famlies funds. Gee I wonder why they have a Monday release date? Could they want the first weekend income all for themselves http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/greedy.gif

[monkey]

Ohhhh, that's an awful thought, but probably true. They should be ashamed http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/no.gif

[Dodgergirl]

Well, the first five days does include the Friday sales. And, not to be negative,(and I'll probably get bashed on this one) but the WTC 'families' have received a hell of a lot of income, haven't they? There are a lot of heroes out there whose kids don't have a trust fund, no $$ for college & their mom/dad died for this country, too...

[Yosemite Joy]

I saw it last weekend.

It was a great movie.

[Patagoniamaniac]

maybe I'll go see it today in fresno. I heard it was really good...