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Meat Man
Jan 21, 2008, 08:50 PM
I heard today it is around you guys out there in Yosemite. Is that right? HAve you guys seen anything like UFO's?

Let me say right here first, that yes I think there is life on other worlds, but NO I do NOT THINK they have EVER been here on earth. All Ufo's I think is fake or Nasa. Maybe even a test plane of some sort.

Sandman
Jan 21, 2008, 09:05 PM
Area 51 is in Nevada, near Vegas. ;)

Meat Man
Jan 21, 2008, 10:10 PM
So I have been told. However:http://youtube.com/watch?v=_6Uibqf0vtA

:nixweiss:

MadScot
Jan 23, 2008, 01:21 PM
This is a composite of a missle test that was aborted and a comet. I remember seeing the missle test that went wrong when it happened.

CatdaBrat
Jan 23, 2008, 06:29 PM
I have seen one (about 20 years ago) and around that same time, so did my sister, while camping. They are probably from our own government. You know they don't tell us half of what really goes on.

Newcomer
Jan 23, 2008, 07:14 PM
I would see this missle test all the time when I lived in So. Cal. They were launched from Vandenburg AFB on a regular basis. Some wrer atmospheric weater tests and some were regular old missle tests. here is another couple real good videos of a tests from the base.



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Summer
Jan 27, 2008, 06:49 PM
It seems like all of a sudden the political thread vanished - poof! Coldwolf and Yosemite Joy - who were the most avid posters - disappeared. YJ has recently appeared in other threads but I really really miss the passionate, heart felt, highly debatable posts from these two people. Now that there is an election coming on come on guys - get in here! I will admit that I learned so much from these people and their adversarys, even when I didn't agree. That's called education! We need you all now! Jump into it!!!! Eek, I think I got off subject - probably should have started a new thread - anyhow, Newcomer, those are spectacular photos! I really really want to believe in life outside of our universe but when I see pictures like these I know that our society is so advanced that the things we see are of our own making. Now, I'm not discounting God or the universe, just saying most of our sightings are probablyn from the military.

MadScot
Jan 31, 2008, 02:12 PM
Some of the most interesting videos are the ones from the space shuttle. I'll try and post some youtube links if I can find them again. One show's what I assume is a particle beam or high energy pulsed laser being fired at the UFO from earth. It moves out of way right before the light passes by. It was this incident that prompted NASA to start scrambling the shuttle feed. It used to be anybody with a ground station could get the raw feed not any more.

Congress has already appropriated funds for something they call a space fighter. I think the first production run is scheduled for 2016. Last I heard there was still an issue with the power generation for the weapons. They tested the weapons airborne in a 727 it took that large of a plane to hold the power generators. They didn't reveal details about the weapons but it’s assumed they are a high energy laser or something more sophisticated. As far back as 79 there was talk about modulating a laser at the frequency that the subatomic particles of an atom vibrate at. It was believed that any solid object stuck with the light would then lose its atomic cohesion. I lost my connection with government researchers in 1987 so I don’t know how that work progressed.

Summer
Jan 31, 2008, 02:59 PM
Some of the most interesting videos are the ones from the space shuttle. I'll try and post some youtube links if I can find them again. One show's what I assume is a particle beam or high energy pulsed laser being fired at the UFO from earth. It moves out of way right before the light passes by. It was this incident that prompted NASA to start scrambling the shuttle feed. It used to be anybody with a ground station could get the raw feed not any more.

Congress has already appropriated funds for something they call a space fighter. I think the first production run is scheduled for 2016. Last I heard there was still an issue with the power generation for the weapons. They tested the weapons airborne in a 727 it took that large of a plane to hold the power generators. They didn't reveal details about the weapons but it’s assumed they are a high energy laser or something more sophisticated. As far back as 79 there was talk about modulating a laser at the frequency that the subatomic particles of an atom vibrate at. It was believed that any solid object stuck with the light would then lose its atomic cohesion. I lost my connection with government researchers in 1987 so I don’t know how that work progressed.

Wow, that is mind boggling stuff. I take it you were in the military? I bet you have some interesting stories to tell.........

MadScot
Jan 31, 2008, 03:56 PM
I wasn't military I worked with one government engineer who was in special weapons research and one who was the top cryptologist in the world. They were really amazing. There are a few things involving national security I would be very hesitant to talk about even now. I know it's still not public knowledge. The stuff about the space fighter is public knowledge it was in one of the science magazines some years ago.