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Dodgergirl
Feb 16, 2008, 05:05 PM
Winners, losers in digital TV transition

By SETH SUTEL, AP Business Writer

NEW YORK - TV's big switch from analog to digital broadcasts will be complete in just one year, on Feb. 17, 2009, and many consumers are puzzling over how the shift will affect them: Do they need a new converter box, a new TV, a better antenna?

But it's pretty clear which business interests stand to gain.

Cable and satellite TV companies could see a wave of new subscribers as people with older TVs pass on hooking up converter boxes to older televisions or buying new sets. Local stations are already using some of the extra capacity digital broadcasting frees up by launching auxiliary TV channels with weather and traffic reports, and they're looking for ways to bring programming to portable devices.

The Federal Communications Commission began the switch many years ago to free up a large chunk of U.S. airwaves, which the government is in the process of auctioning off, a process that will net billions of dollars for public coffers. Making all UHF broadcast spectrum above channel 52 available will allow for powerful new wireless services, and possibly for a new network for public safety officials to use during disasters.

Most U.S. TV stations already broadcast digital signals as well as analog. What's happening a year from Sunday is they'll switch off the analog signals. No one with cable or satellite service will be affected, nor will anyone who gets stations over the air with a newer TV with a digital tuner.

Those who will be affected are the 13 million or so households that get TV broadcasts exclusively over the air and have a TV more than a few years old — or even a newer TV that's relatively small. Also affected are TVs not connected to cable, even if a home has cable.

A Nielsen Co. study released Friday found that 16.8 percent of all U.S. households have at least one analog television set that would not work following the switch. And Hispanics are nearly twice as likely as whites to be without TV reception.

Affected households can get a digital converter box, buy a new television or sign up for cable or satellite service or one of the newer cable-like services being offered by phone companies.

A government program said Friday that it will begin sending out coupons Tuesday worth $40 each to any U.S. household that requests them to subsidize buying a box. Each household is entitled to two coupons for the boxes, which are just coming into stores now, start at $40 or $50, making this option easy and practically free. The government says it has funds for 33 million coupons. To get one, go to http://www.dtv2009.gov. or call 1-888-DTV-2009 (1-888-388-2009).

All TVs being made and shipped as of March 1 are required to have digital tuners, which are sometimes called ATSC tuners, after the technical standard used to make them (the analog standard was known as NTSC). Retailers can still sell analog-only TVs from existing inventory as long as they are clearly labeled as such.

If your current TV has the initials "DTV" appear somewhere on its front, or its screen is rectangular, you're probably OK. If you still have the owner's manual, check there whether the tuner is digital.

The new signal could mean the picture on some televisions will improve, but it doesn't guarantee high-definition visuals. That depends on whether a particular TV is set up to receive high-definition programming and whether a program is broadcast that way.

The switch could give an economic boost to retailers and manufacturers, who would benefit from selling the boxes and new TVs. And cable providers could get a boost over the next year or two from consumers who sign up for new service rather than deal with the other options.

According to a report Sanford C. Bernstein & Co. released Friday, an estimated 1.4 million households will likely switch to pay TV service as a result of the digital TV transition — enough to significantly lift the growth rates for the cable industry in 2009, compared to recent years.

Chris Murray, senior counsel for Consumers Union, says his organization is watching that pay TV operators don't take advantage of confusion over the digital transition to push people into buying cable to view digital TV broadcasts. It isn't necessary.

So far he hasn't seen any abusive behavior, but he said: "We want the folks in the marketplace to know that we're watching."

Brian Dietz, a spokesman for the National Cable & Telecommunications Association, a cable TV industry group, notes that cable's educational ads about the transition don't say consumers have to switch to cable.

For retailers, Bernstein analysts say the economic boost is likely to be incremental. The market for the converter boxes is likely to be about $1.4 billion, and for new TVs about $1.7 billion, for a total of $3.1 billion — still a relatively tiny part of the $150 billion U.S. consumer electronics market.

The cost to broadcasters of new digital equipment is relatively small. Tim Thorsteinson, president of the broadcast division of Harris Corp., a major manufacturer of broadcasting equipment, says it costs about $500,000 to upgrade a typical TV station.

The transition comes at a tough point for local TV stations, however, because they are seeing live viewership erode amid a proliferation of ways to watch video — over the Internet, on iPods and DVDs.

Mark Aitken, director of advanced technology at Sinclair Broadcast Group Inc., a major broadcaster based near Baltimore, says digital technology gives TV owners several important ways to hold onto viewers, mainly high-definition broadcasts, which can be a lot more pleasant to watch than YouTube videos.

Aitken calls using HDTV broadcasts the "low-hanging fruit" for TV stations to take advantage of. He points to another big possibility: sending live TV broadcasts to portable devices like cell phones. Adapting the handsets would be simple technically; the far bigger issue is getting broadcasters, programmers, mobile device makers to agree on a standard.

Just next week, a preliminary field trial for three competing technologies for portable TV viewing is getting under way in San Francisco, Aitken said. The industry could have a candidate for the a new mobile TV standard in place by the third or fourth quarter of this year.

Government coupon program for digital converter boxes: http://www.dtv2009.gov

FCC's site explaining changes involved in digital transition: http://www.DTV.gov

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080216/ap_on_hi_te/digital_tv_transition_8

mountainmissy
Oct 21, 2008, 11:44 AM
Is anyone having problems with the digital converter box??

We have always just had an antenna and were able to pick up Fresno stations--PBS/18, NBC/24, FOX/26, ABC/30, and CBS/47. We ordered the converter box coupons early, receiving them in May. We have two analog sets. We bought the two boxes from Radio Shack in town. We are not technically savvy so we paid to have the boxes professionally installed. The downstairs set only got one station with the box. The upstairs set got everything except NBC. A couple of days after the converter box warranty expired, the sound on the upstairs box went out--we had the volume turned as high as it would go and couldn't hear anything. We took the box back to Radio Shack and even though the warranty had just expired, they were very nice and refunded the money we had paid; they said they couldn't replace the box because it was purchased with the coupon. We then moved the downstairs box to our upstairs set and found we got all of the analog stations and even channels 7 and 59--though 24 registered "no program" or "weak signal" a lot of the time. For about 3 months, all was well and then the power button and volume buttons on the remote stopped working--we thought maybe we needed new batteries in the remote but that didn't help either; but we found we could still turn on the TV and adjust the volume with our old TV remote and then used the remote that came with the converter box to switch channels. That has worked for the past 2 months; then last night everything associated with the converter box stopped working. We undid everything and are now back on analog and will take the box, etc. back to Radio Shack. Doubt if we'll get any refund this time.

Just wondered if anyone else has had problems with converter boxes?? We live too far out for cable. To have two boxes crash within 6 months--we're now out of coupons, buying another box does not seem like a wise choice.

Is this happening to others??

Red Mule
Oct 21, 2008, 03:51 PM
Just a few thoughts...

If the failed boxes could be taken to a knowledgable repair-person (see, I'm being politically correct) who could determine the point of failure, that would probably help answer the question. A fluxuating AC current could have damaged the box. Many power strips can give you protection against power surges.

Did you use any splitters or in-line signal amplifiers? Could be an issue.

Or, it could be just poorly designed converter boxes. Did you try any other brands besides Radio Shack? There was a report from Microtune, "raising compliance issues about Subsidized U.S. Digital TV Converter Box Program. Through internal testing in its Advanced Television Systems Committee (ATSC) lab, Microtune has discovered tuner-related performance failures in certain certified coupon-eligible converter boxes (CECBs) that do not contain Microtune tuners." ~ That sounds a bit self-serving to me, but could still be true.

Did you check into any warrenty directly from the manufacturer, rather than just returning the box to Radio Shack? Usually, the manufacturer will have a much better idea about possible problems than the retailer.

mountainmissy
Oct 22, 2008, 10:51 AM
Thank you Red Mule for your thoughtful comments.

No we didn't take the failed boxes to a repair person--figured we spent too much money already. Thank you, Congress... We did use a power strip surge protector.

You asked if we investigated any other brands besides Radio Shack. No, we didn't. We are totally committed to shopping locally and when the coupons came back, they listed the "approved" places where converter boxes were available with the coupon. The only local place listed was Radio Shack, so that's where we went.

We took the second box back to Radio Shack yesterday. Though they couldn't refund our money, they offered us a store credit which was nice.

Anyhow, at this point we'll stick with analog until February and are then considering stopping TV altogether...

Again, appreciate your taking the time to offer your thoughts...

monkey
Oct 22, 2008, 02:24 PM
[QUOTE=Red Mule;61585]Just a few thoughts...
Or, it could be just poorly designed converter boxes.

My husband, being in the TV repair business was contacted by several manufacturers to sell the boxes. He declined every offer feeling that it would take time for the boxes to be made without having issues and he didn't want to have to deal with trying to fix them over and over. I hope that isn't the case, time will tell how they work for people overall.

Red Mule
Oct 22, 2008, 03:23 PM
Monkey,

I understand completely. I once worked in a TV Repair shop and spent almost all my time fixing VHS machines, many of them repeatedly. With the design of most of them it was easy for me to see why they constantly had problems. So many little moving parts and a big door that people were always shoving things into!

Since we didn't get a chance to vote against this conversion, the best solution here is to just buy a TV that works with digital signals. I know that converting to digital signals opened up lots of bandwidth the FCC could sell all over again. And it is a sales bonanza for firms making converter boxes and new TVs.

But, I was perfectly happy with analog signals, even if an antenna doesn't work where I live.

RustyGal
Oct 24, 2008, 07:44 AM
mountainmissy - I admire your commitment to shop local but really, what's the point in this case when I suspect the boxes are manufactured in China (I'm curious what your packaging says). Like RedMule said we didn't get a voice in this (doesn't that make anybody else's radar ding?). A federal mandate as to TV service....hmmmmmmmm...can you THINK of a more passive way to get every American household to have a point of connection in common? And to think - if you don't already possess a compatible device 'they' are subsidizing 'compliance'...hmmmmmmmmmmm....

As an environmentalist the prospect of all the old analog sets en masse being discarded/dumped makes for an interesting hazardous waste disposal issue, doesn't it? And you would have thought at least if the Feds were mandating something with the potential of putting a product in every single American household the economically responsible thing would have been a US manufacturing facility employing AMERICANS and paying reasonable wages with health insurance coverage and creating taxable income to feed into the IRS. Hmmmmmmm...

Aren't you OUTRAGED that tax dollars (however they're being distributed) are being used to supplement access to a form of entertainment?!

And those are just the ways in which this smells like a rat that I'll discuss in public.

mountainmissy
Oct 24, 2008, 10:56 AM
Rusty Gal--checked the packaging. You are right--"made in China." Won't be "dumping" our TV though--it will still be good if we want to watch videos or DVDs...

You do raise excellent points. Thank you for your thoughts...

BooBooBear
Jan 15, 2009, 06:15 PM
O.K. so I went online, filled out the form, said I was approved, said they'd be mailing my cards out on 12/26 and today 1/15 I still don't have any cards?? Does anyone know how long it takes to get them from the time they said they would mail them??

On that note as well...since there is no Sierra Audio Video anymore and I won't go to Chase's Repair....is there anyone up here that fixes VCR's??

Newcomer
Jan 15, 2009, 07:15 PM
Last I heard on the news was that Obama was trying to delay the digital switch over date because the coupons ran out and the budget for them did not have any more money to go towards additional coupons and Obama said that the US public would not be ready in time. This was on CNN last week. That is the last I heard on it.

BooBooBear
Jan 15, 2009, 07:38 PM
Last I heard on the news was that Obama was trying to delay the digital switch over date because the coupons ran out and the budget for them did not have any more money to go towards additional coupons and Obama said that the US public would not be ready in time. This was on CNN last week. That is the last I heard on it.

Thank you! I'll have to hope that it's postponed then. It would have made a heck of a lot more sense for them to just sell you the dang box for $20 and let the companies who offer them deal with getting the money from the Government.

Newcomer
Jan 16, 2009, 10:20 AM
I doubt that they will delay it. They are too far along I think.

only1alphafemale
Feb 23, 2009, 08:10 AM
Hundreds of television stations cut analog signals (AP)
Posted on Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:37PM EST

NEW YORK - About a quarter of the nation's TV stations cut off their analog signals Tuesday, causing sets to go dark in households that were not prepared for digital television despite two years of warnings about the transition.

Though most viewers were ready — and people with cable or satellite service were unaffected — some stations and call centers reported a steady stream of questions from frustrated callers. Many wondered how to get coupons for converter boxes that translate digital signals for older TVs — or how to get the devices working.

"It's kind of an irritation, but I understand that everyone will have a much better picture. As far as I was concerned, they could have left things the way they were," said Dorothy Delegard, 67, of Minneapolis, who bought a converter box because a friend gave her a coupon that expires Tuesday.

http://tech.yahoo.com/news/ap/20090217/ap_on_hi_te/tec_digital_tv_transition