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Yosemite Joy
Mar 12, 2008, 08:03 PM
Is leaving child in locked car child endangerment?
TRIAL | 2-year-old slept while mom put coins in kettle

March 5, 2008
BY MICHAEL DRAKULICH SouthtownStar

A charitable gesture turned into a nightmare for Treffly Coyne in December when she was arrested outside a Crestwood Wal-Mart and charged with child endangerment and obstruction of justice.

The Tinley Park woman will stand trial next week. She's accused of leaving her 2-year-old daughter in her locked car while she took her two other kids and a neighbor's child about 30 feet away to put money in a Salvation Army bell-ringer's kettle.

The incident has spurred thousands of posts on Internet message boards, some calling Coyne a terrible parent and others saying Crestwood Police overreacted.

The case raises questions on how long a child has to be out of a parent's sight to constitute child endangerment.

"If I blink, does that mean I wasn't watching," asked Tim Janecyk, Coyne's husband. "I think we have a great chance. We've seen the evidence and when it comes out, she'll be exonerated. I think we'll get a fair shake here."

Coyne took her three daughters and a neighbor's child to Wal-Mart on an icy night so her kids could donate money they had collected for the Salvation Army.

When she drove up to the Wal-Mart entrance, her 2-year-old daughter was asleep, so Coyne left her in her car seat, locked the car, and walked with the other kids to the Salvation Army kettle.

A minute or two later, as they walked back to the car, a Crestwood community service officer told her she was under arrest for child endangerment.

Coyne's attorney, Michelle Forbes, said the law gives police discretion in such cases.

"The statute states that if the child is under 14 years old, it should not be out of sight of the parent. We argue that the child was never out of sight," she said.

Sun-Times News Group




So what do you think? Did these particular circumstances warrant an arrest? Yes, it is in the CA Vehicle Code.

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/waisgate?WAISdocID=38090118783+0+0+0&WAISaction=retrieve

Kahlua Kid
Mar 12, 2008, 08:08 PM
30 feet away for a couple minutes... to me - no. They overreacted.

Now go into Walmart for an hour... yes...

What is this world coming to? Give me a break!!!

I suppose if it was 102 degrees out and the car was flaming hot, I get that. That is child endangerment.

But 30 feet away... that's a 5 second walk.

mary oleary
Mar 12, 2008, 11:52 PM
30 ft... is that out of sight? But wouldn't she have seen the cop looking in her car if she wasn't out of sight?

A minute or two later, as they walked back to the car, a Crestwood community service officer told her she was under arrest for child endangerment.It seems that it must have been longer than the time it takes to walk 30 ft and back...unless he is "Zippie the wonder Cop" or happened to see her pull up and just waited for her to come back, rather than advise her to not leave the baby.

Maybe the cop overreacted, and I can see why the mom thought it would be safe...but maybe she really was out of sight, and it took longer than a couple minutes...what a drag.

Michelle
Mar 13, 2008, 04:47 AM
What in the world is the problem. I read the story wrong last night,...but 30ft away.. The security guard was bored. Why didn't he stop her from leaving the car without the baby. Why didn't the security guard stand there and watch over the car for her she just ran to the kettle to have the kids drop money in.How many people have done that with there kids, I know I have... I think they are taking it way to far. Charging her with child endangerment come on. little much.....if you ask me...

Ironhorse
Mar 13, 2008, 07:20 AM
While on the one hand it sounds like the police over-reacted, on the other had the speed that some of these car thieves can break into a car, hot wire it and take off with it is also unbelievable. I don't think a child should ever be left in a car unattended, hot or cold weather, whether the car is locked or not. As many stories as you read of people stealing cars and taking off with sleeping infants in the back seat, you'd think a parent would be a "bit more careful" in this day and age.

Iris
Mar 13, 2008, 10:11 AM
I agree with certain aspects of both sides of this issue (must be the Libra in me). However, IMHO, an arrest is a bit much (assuming that there is no history of child endangerment, etc.).

CatdaBrat
Mar 14, 2008, 01:12 AM
I don't think the mom should have been arrested. The crap her family will have to go through will be way worse than a kid being left to sleep for a couple of minutes. The thing I wonder about, though, is why risk taking your kids out in the car on an icy night? Their safety should come before the nice gesture of dropping a little money into a donation pot.

Yosemite Joy
Mar 14, 2008, 07:54 AM
Isn't Chicago always icy? LOL. I know when I lived there (for three months) Jan-March it was freezing on a daily basis.

Iris
Mar 14, 2008, 10:44 AM
This morning on Headline News (CNN), I heard that all charges have been dropped.

jjcheyenne
Mar 14, 2008, 10:57 PM
They could have just gave her a warning and a talking to instead of arresting her. I could see if she actually went into the store, that would have been a different story. But 30 feet away? They definatly over reacted.

Coldwolf
Mar 24, 2008, 01:38 AM
So if the ?(whats a community service officer)? observed her... why didn't he immidiately walk up to her and ask what she was doing? And then offer to watch the child since he (or she) was a " community SERVICE officer".

only1alphafemale
Mar 24, 2008, 06:53 PM
So if the ?(whats a community service officer)? observed her... why didn't he immidiately walk up to her and ask what she was doing? And then offer to watch the child since he (or she) was a " community SERVICE officer".

A CSO, or community service officer, is a "paid" form of our "Cititzens on Patrol" ~ :) lol Good to see you here CW !