Anna Nicole Smith

[beautiful_mess38]

Pierce Marshall dies unexpectedly at 67 By MATT CURRY, Associated Press Writer
32 minutes ago



DALLAS - E. Pierce Marshall, who feuded for years with former Playboy Playmate Anna Nicole Smith over his father's oil fortune, has died, his spokesman said Friday. He was 6




Marshall died unexpectedly earlier this week in the Dallas area from a brief and extremely aggressive infection, the family said in a written statement released through spokesman David Margulies. He declined to provide additional details about Marshall's death on Tuesday

[monkey]

Anna Nicole must be dancing on his grave.

[Newcomer]

(CNN) -- Reality TV star and former model Anna Nicole Smith is dead, a law enforcement source told CNN.

Smith, 39, collapsed at a south Florida hotel and was taken to a local hospital, according to news reports.

TMZ.com had reported that Smith collapsed at the Seminole Hard Rock Hotel and Casino in Hollywood, Florida, and was rushed to Memorial Regional Hospital in Hollywood just after 2 p.m. ET.

According to reports, Smith was found unresponsive in her hotel room.

Smith was involved in paternity suit regarding the parentage of her daughter, Danielynn, as well as other disputes, including ones regarding a house she stayed at in the Bahamas around the time she gave birth.

Earlier this week, Smith was included in a class-action lawsuit against a company, TrimSpa, for which she has worked as a spokesperson. TrimSpa makes a product it claims leads to substantial weight loss. The lawsuit alleges the marketing of the product, TrimSpa X32, was false or misleading.

Smith's son, Daniel Wayne Smith, died at age 20 just days after the birth of Smith's daughter. Pathologist Cyril Wecht said a lethal dose of methadone and antidepressants caused cardiac dysrhythmia, leading to his death.

Edited Title to correct spelling -Sandman

[frmmts2sea]

I was just about to post this also. I feel so bad for her as she surely was trashed on TV for her lifestyle.

[Michelle]

Anna Nicole Smith dies

-- The Associated Press

(Updated Thursday, February 8, 2007, 1:06 PM)
ADVERTISMENT

HOLLYWOOD, Fla. (AP) Anna Nicole Smith, the former Playboy playmate whose bizarre life careened from marrying an octogenarian billionaire to the untimely death of her son, died Thursday after collapsing at a South Florida hotel, one of her lawyers said.

Smith, 39, collapsed and was unresponsive while staying at the Seminole Hard Rock Cafe Hotel and Casino, said the attorney, Ron Rale. She was rushed to a hospital.

"She checked in Monday at 8 p.m. as a guest. She was due to check out tomorrow," said Danielle Giordaano, a spokeswoman for the hotel.

Smith had been a tabloid staple even before she became Playboy's playmate of the year in 1993. Readers were fascinated by her bombshell good looks, her marriage to an elderly billionaire and subsequent court fight over his estate, her weight fluctuations, and last year, the sudden death of her 20-year-old son, Daniel Smith.

A former topless dancer, she made her name squeezing into Guess jeans. She resembled the late actress Marilyn Monroe, a similarity played up in her Guess magazine ads, billboards and department store displays.

In 1994, she married 89-year-old oil tycoon J. Howard Marshall II, the head of oil-based Koch Industries, which is part of a family fortune worth at least $400 million.

He died in 1995, setting off a feud with her former stepson, E. Pierce Marshall, over whether she had a right to his estate.

A federal court in California awarded Smith $474 million in a complicated legal twist that began after she declared bankruptcy. That was later overturned.

But in May, the U.S. Supreme Court revived her case, ruling that she deserved another day in court in her battle with her former stepson.

The justices said only that federal courts in California could deal with her case despite a Texas state court ruling that Marshall was the sole heir to the estate.

Then, the stepson died June 20 at age 67. But the family said the court fight would continue.

Daniel Smith died Sept. 10 in his mother's hospital room in the Bahamas, just days after she gave birth to a daughter.

An American medical examiner hired by the family, Cyril Wecht, said he had methadone and two antidepressants in his system when he died. Low levels of the three drugs interacted to cause an accidental death, Wecht said.

Meanwhile, the paternity of her now 5-month-old daughter remained a matter of dispute.

She was born Vickie Lynn Hogan on Nov. 28, 1967, in Houston, one of six children of Donald Eugene and Virgie Hart Hogan.

She married Bill Smith in 1985, giving birth to Daniel before divorcing two years later.

[monkey]

She certainly was a unique personality. I always felt kinda sorry for her, like she was a very lost and confused soul.

[Newcomer]

You are late LOL. I already posted it. Nah Nah Nah Nah LOL

[beautiful_mess38]

Gosh I was just thinking about her this morning after reading about the paternity lawsuit for her daughter. I'm thinking this girl is teetering on the edge. She has all these lawsuits against her, the death of her son, and everyone beaten on her while she's down. I bet she overdosed on drugs by accident.
What a shame. And I hope everyone who filed lawsuits against her are proud of themselves. A person can only handle so much. Sure she's up there with her son but she leaves behind a daughter that will never know her mother.

[Michelle]

http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/laugh.gif http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/bonk.gif


laughing..... funny man ......


I thought the same thing ... gosh darn it he got posted first...LOL

if this thread needs to be taken out that is fine......


http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/eusa_dance.gif

[Sandman]

combined a few threads here

[Patagoniamaniac]

Sad...sounds suspicious to me....unless she commited suicide but why did she have a nurse with her?....my feelings right now are...appreciate life...you never know when its your time to go....fame fortune and wealth doesnt buy happiness......

[beautiful_mess38]

According to the news she had been sick before leaving for Florida. She had her nurse and bodyguard with her. The night before she fell in the bathroom and hit her head. She took a nap and felt better.
I think it's just a mixture of the drugs she was taking. And Trimspa is not FDA approved.

[Patagoniamaniac]

I think her lawyer has something to do with both her and her son's death...speculating...its just odd that they would both die so young..

[Mysteefied]

It is definatly sad. I kinda felt sorry for her too, She definatly was devistated by the death of her son. I hope they figure out who her daughters father is soon.

[frmmts2sea]

I am so sad for her also. I can't even believe it. We think her husband might have had something to do with it

[Patagoniamaniac]

Originally posted by frmmts2sea:
I am so sad for her also. I can't even believe it. We think her husband might have had something to do with it

ditto!...He was recently under scrutiny about having something to do with her son's death. Thats another reason she has been depressed. Heard that on good morning america this morning.
really sad...

[frmmts2sea]

yes it is, he's a basta*d

[citizen]

http://break.com/index/rosie_makes_fun_of_anna_nicole_smith.html

Rosie made fun of Anna hours before her death.

I never have been a fan of Rosie.

[frmmts2sea]

ty, neither have I-she makes fun of every1 & is so verabally abusive

[Dee]

First of all, Anna and Howard were not married (they only had a "commitment" ceremony). Secondly, we don't know what happened so I think it's a little premature to even think that Howard did it. I get the sense that he really loved her (but then who knows). We do know that even though her life was tragic, she was one messed-up girl. Always on drugs (if you've seen her interviews). I'm more concerned about the baby at this point. I mean, who really is the father?Originally posted by frmmts2sea:
I am so sad for her also. I can't even believe it. We think her husband might have had something to do with it

[Patagoniamaniac]

Originally posted by citizen:
http://break.com/index/rosie_makes_fun_of_anna_nicole_smith.html

Rosie made fun of Anna hours before her death.

I never have been a fan of Rosie.

ditto!...They need to get her off the View. I refuse to watch that show anymore because she's on it. none of the other correspondents can get a word in edge wise..she's overbearing!..and thinks she runs the show..echhh!

[frmmts2sea]

ditto, I won't watch it either

[CatdaBrat]

I just saw something on the news, where the TV cameras and interviewer were in the autopsy room, following the medical examiner around, asking things like, "And what will happen to the body now?" etc. etc.

Even factoring in my low tolerance for the seemingly endless media blitz anytime a celebrity even gets a hangnail, I think cameras in the autopsy room is unnecessarily morbid.

And just as I expected, here come more men to join in the paternity fight. Funny -- many times, a woman has to slap a paternity suit on a guy to make him responsible for a baby...not this time, but most babies aren't that rich. They ought to just settle it quickly with DNA tests and stop all the grandstanding. This is probably going to be in the news for years. It will be a new FOX TV reality show.

This new guy should have just kept quiet about it until the other two contenders have had their DNA tests. If neither one of them are the father, then he could step forward. I think he just wanted to brag and get a little publicity out of it, too.

[Dee]

I know...everyone wants to be the "baby daddy" now. I saw the interview w/Anna's mom last night. She has nerve going to the Bahamas and trying to get custody when Anna didn't want anything to do with her for 10 years. She didn't seem like too nice a woman badmouthing Anna and saying she never gave her any money.Originally posted by CatdaBrat:
I just saw something on the news, where the TV cameras and interviewer were in the autopsy room, following the medical examiner around, asking things like, "And what will happen to the body now?" etc. etc.

Even factoring in my low tolerance for the seemingly endless media blitz anytime a celebrity even gets a hangnail, I think cameras in the autopsy room is unnecessarily morbid.

And just as I expected, here come more men to join in the paternity fight. Funny -- many times, a woman has to slap a paternity suit on a guy to make him responsible for a baby...not this time, but most babies aren't that rich. They ought to just settle it quickly with DNA tests and stop all the grandstanding. This is probably going to be in the news for years. It will be a new FOX TV reality show.

This new guy should have just kept quiet about it until the other two contenders have had their DNA tests. If neither one of them are the father, then he could step forward. I think he just wanted to brag and get a little publicity out of it, too.

[Patagoniamaniac]

Money..The root of all evil

[Sandman]

New York Daily News - http://www.nydailynews.com
Old man and the seed?
BY MICHELLE CARUSO and CORKY SIEMASZKO
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS
Friday, February 9th, 2007

Anna Nicole Smith's death became even more bizarre than her life yesterday as a series of bombshell revelations uncovered an ever-growing web of sexual intrigue - including the startling claim that her late billionaire husband may be the father of her infant daughter.

The stunning disclosure comes in a no-holds-barred manuscript written by her half-sister Donna Hogan obtained exclusively by the Daily News.

Hogan alleges that her sister froze the sperm of 90-year-old J. Howard Marshall years ago, and believes she may have used it to become pregnant.

The revelation topped even the unseemly paternity suit that raged in a Los Angeles court less than 24 hours after Smith's death.

The former Playmate's live-in companion and her former boyfriend Larry Birkhead both claim they are the father of baby Dannielynn - the little girl who could inherit up to half of Marshall's $1.6 billion fortune.

They weren't the only ones laying claim to Dannielynn yesterday.

Smith's mother, Vergie Arthur, flew to the Bahamas yesterday to see her grandchild for the first time. The infant had been left with friends in the Bahamas.

And amid all the legal maneuvering, Zsa Zsa Gabor's wacky husband, Prince Frederic von Anhalt, made the bizarre claim that he fathered Smith's daughter. A publicist for Gabor, 90, said von Anhalt was full of it.

But even the battle to be named the father of Dannielynn was overshadowed by the claims in Donna Hogan's unpublished manuscript.

In the aptly named "Train Wreck" - written with author Stacy Brown - Hogan says: "I wouldn't be shocked at all if it's J. Howard's. She saved his sperm after all and that maybe [sic] her trump card in her fight to get the old man's estate."

Depicting her half-sister as ever calculating, Hogan wrote that Smith was "seeing into the future. ... She takes Howard in to have his sperm tested. When the results show that he is still fertile, she has a quantity of his sperm frozen."

Hogan wrote that when her half-sister announced to the world she was pregnant, she declined to name the father.

"To her family, she hinted that she had used the old man's frozen sperm, and would be giving birth to Howard Marshall's child," the manuscript claims.

Later in the book while discussing the paternity fight, Hogan unleashed one of her many scathing descriptions of her half-sister.

"That's my sister for you. That b---h probably doesn't even know who the father is. Soon she'll probably say it's J. Howard's," Hogan wrote.

Hogan could not be reached for comment yesterday, but in an interview with "Inside Edition" she said, "I don't want people to talk about the crazy stuff. ... I want them to remember her for being full of life."

Nevertheless, Hogan describes a campaign by Smith to marry the aging oil baron and then the cold hearted way she treated her "Paw Paw" after the ring was on her finger.

Hogan, who uses Smith's given name Vickie in the manuscript, wrote that her sister met "Old Man Howard" at a Houston strip club called Gigi's, where Smith worked as a stripper and the wheelchair-bound geriatric was a regular.

"For several weeks, she played hard to get, before agreeing to grant him special favors outside the club," she wrote.

Smith married Marshall in 1994 when she was 26 and he was 89 - over the objections of the oil man's son, E. Pierce Marshall.

After the wedding, however, she treated her husband like a dog.

"She refused to allow him to lie next to her, stating that he would urinate in bed," Hogan he wrote.

Smith tore through Marshall's finances accumulating jewelry, houses, luxury cars while cheating on him "with household servants, girlfriends and married men."

She would leave him for weeks at a time, refuse to return his many phone calls, and when she did spend time with him, Smith was often oblivious to his frailties.

Once, Smith dragged Marshall out to dinner even though he was ill and "left J. Howard in his wheelchair in the rain."

But when Marshall finally had enough, Smith scampered back "to ensure her place as heiress to his fortune."

"Do you miss your rosebuds?" Smith said at one encounter with breasts bared and a tape recorder running, Hogan wrote.

"Train Wreck" states that Marshall "clearly loved Vickie," and that he called her almost daily, calls she generally ignored. She didn't even visit the old man for the last month of his life.

At the end, Marshall had had enough.

"On the night before he died, J. Howard refused Vickie's phone call. He died tired of Vickie," Hogan wrote.

Marshall's death in 1995 set off a court battle for his $1.6 billion estate that continues to this day.

The bitter legal war with Marshall's son lasted a decade, but it immediately became a fierce fight over every little detail of Marshall's life - even his remains.

The son and widow went to court over who got possession of Marshall's ashes and they decided to split the ashes - what Hogan calls a "half-ash settlement."

[beautiful_mess38]

I don't beleave anything her mother or half sister say. Anna hated her mother and did not have a sisterly relationship with her half sister. Everything her sister writes has already been in the press.
As far as I'm concerned everyone is out for the buck.

Heck single mom billionaire wants me....h*ll ya. But if he uriniated the bed would you sleep with him. I'm not saying I agree with the way she handled her marriage to J. howard, however he knew what he was getting into.

And if she did have his sperm frozen, she's smarter then what I give her credit for.

[Kim]

Originally posted by Mysteefied:
It is definatly sad. I kinda felt sorry for her too, She definatly was devistated by the death of her son. I hope they figure out who her daughters father is soon.

She was so devastated by the death of her son that it took $600,000 of tabloid money for the pictures of his last day with her to make her feel better. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/shout.gif
I seldom label people as "a waste of skin", but she fell perilously close to that category for me when I heard about that.

[Patagoniamaniac]

Originally posted by Kim:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mysteefied:
It is definatly sad. I kinda felt sorry for her too, She definatly was devistated by the death of her son. I hope they figure out who her daughters father is soon.

She was so devastated by the death of her son that it took $600,000 of tabloid money for the pictures of his last day with her to make her feel better. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/shout.gif
I seldom label people as "a waste of skin", but she fell perilously close to that category for me when I heard about that. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I totaly agree..that was in real bad taste..like I said ..$ the root of all evil..

[citizen]

We can always count on Oakhurst Forums members to find fault in the recently deceased. I was wondering how long it would take this time. I'm sorry, it just really bugs me when people say bad things about people that just died. Like "Maniac" said, "real bad taste". She is not here to defend herself and she has a lot of friends and family in mourning right now. Celeb or not, she is not for us to judge, especially when she, herself, was going through a very difficult time in losing her son. We are only human and we all make mistakes.. especially when going through troubled times.

[Patagoniamaniac]

oh cmon...it's just how I felt about her selling her son's pics even before she died... and even if she was around..she wouldnt be on these forums to defend herself....Are you so perfect? that you have never voiced your opinion about someone that has parted??..give me a break..selling your son's photo for selfish reasons like greed or money is a selfless act and I'll stick to that..thats my opinion ..you dont like it? dont read it!

[frmmts2sea]

I agree, wholeheartedly. I feel very sorry sad about this, as I said before. She has a nurse with her, so who knows what really happened

[Mysteefied]

None of us know why she did the things she did. She made a lot of choices none of us would make, and none of us would be faced with. I personally was thinking she may have done that, knowing they were going to post pictures anyway, so why not get some money to put aside for her daughter....but hey, I don't know, I wasn't there, Just a different way of looking at it.

~Peace~

[Dee]

I agree with you Patagoniamaniac. This is a public forum, and we are ALL entitled to express our opinions. When you participate on such a forum, you take the risk of reading something that might offend you. Newsflash to citizen: some of your opinions have offended me but I feel you have the right to express them.Originally posted by Patagoniamaniac:
oh cmon...it's just how I felt about her selling her son's pics even before she died... and even if she was around..she wouldnt be on these forums to defend herself....Are you so perfect? that you have never voiced your opinion about someone that has parted??..give me a break..selling your son's photo for selfish reasons like greed or money is a selfless act and I'll stick to that..thats my opinion ..you dont like it? dont read it!

[Kim]

No, I'm the person who owns the "picking on the recently deceased" title this time, not Pata; I started it. I can safely say that if the girl was alive and in front of my face, I would have asked her what the hell she was thinking; my opinion of her actions hasn't changed just because she's passed away. But I'm judging her actions, not her soul.
I thought myself of the fact that those pictures would have been out there anyway and so she may as well have gotten some money for them; I also realize that there are some people out there who live for publicity and her son may well have been that type as well. But I still think it was an action that was tacky and started her baby's life in a negative light.

[monkey]

My thoughts are that Anna didn't sell the photos, but that her "people" did in her name. I think she had alot of people hanging on and taking what they could from her. If one of her people did sell the photos, I'm sure they got a very hefty commission on them. No one knows the whole story about anything or anyone, even those we feel we are close to.

[Yosemite_Wolf]

Anna Nicole was selfish. Her whole life was selfish. I mean.... she married an 80 y.o. rich man... Don't go telling me that if this 80 y. o. man survived on nothing but a few K a month Soc Sec check that she would have even given him a first OR second thought. Citizen... are you so high and mighty yourself for whining at ppl just cos they post their thoughts and feelings here? I can bet dollars to dogpoop that if you were lying bleeding in the street and Anna Nicole walked past.... she wouldnt even look your way or call 911 ... unless you tossed a few million spare dollars at here.

[Chem101]

dollars to dogpoop
??????

[Dee]

You are right on (again)! Where does citizen think he can tell us what to post? I agree with you about Anna and just hope that the outcome of this fiasco will be in the baby's favor. originally posted by Yosemite_Wolf:
Anna Nicole was selfish. Her whole life was selfish. I mean.... she married an 80 y.o. rich man... Don't go telling me that if this 80 y. o. man survived on nothing but a few K a month Soc Sec check that she would have even given him a first OR second thought. Citizen... are you so high and mighty yourself for whining at ppl just cos they post their thoughts and feelings here? I can bet dollars to dogpoop that if you were lying bleeding in the street and Anna Nicole walked past.... she wouldnt even look your way or call 911 ... unless you tossed a few million spare dollars at here.[/QUOTE]

[Yosemite_Wolf]

Chem 101... ever heard the phrase "dollars to dougnnuts?" Well... this argueing here is dogpoop so I changed the phrase! LOL.

[Nascar8Fan]

Wolfie, you rock. I couldn't have said it any better. Thank you for putting it out there in such a perfect way http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/applause.gif

[frmmts2sea]

I also applaud you wolfie http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/applause.gif

I have neve seen such a do fight in this forum

[Patagoniamaniac]

Originally posted by Yosemite_Wolf:
Anna Nicole was selfish. Her whole life was selfish. I mean.... she married an 80 y.o. rich man... Don't go telling me that if this 80 y. o. man survived on nothing but a few K a month Soc Sec check that she would have even given him a first OR second thought. Citizen... are you so high and mighty yourself for whining at ppl just cos they post their thoughts and feelings here? I can bet dollars to dogpoop that if you were lying bleeding in the street and Anna Nicole walked past.... she wouldnt even look your way or call 911 ... unless you tossed a few million spare dollars at here.


uh huh! you go girl!

[Patagoniamaniac]

Originally posted by Kim:
No, I'm the person who owns the "picking on the recently deceased" title this time, not Pata; I started it. I can safely say that if the girl was alive and in front of my face, I would have asked her what the hell she was thinking; my opinion of her actions hasn't changed just because she's passed away. But I'm judging her actions, not her soul.
I thought myself of the fact that those pictures would have been out there anyway and so she may as well have gotten some money for them; I also realize that there are some people out there who live for publicity and her son may well have been that type as well. But I still think it was an action that was tacky and started her baby's life in a negative light.

thats right thats right!..uh huh!

[beautiful_mess38]

Wolfie your so funny.........but, when I was a single mom and I had the chance to marry a 90 year old billionaire hell ya I'd do it, in a heartbeat man. I would just close my eyes and pretend he was Brad Pitt.

[Kim]

My Dad's best advice that I didn't take..."just marry a rich old man with a weak heart".

Citizen can tell us what to post because it's how he feels; that's how this works, IMHO.

[Patagoniamaniac]

Originally posted by Kim:
My Dad's best advice that I didn't take..."just marry a rich old man with a weak heart".

Citizen can tell us what to post because it's how he feels; that's how this works, IMHO.

LOL!I like your dads humor...

[Dee]

I disagree with you Kim. No one participating in this forum has the right to tell another member "what to post". You can disagree with someone and comment about it but it's not cool to think that you can tell someone else what they can and cannot post.Originally posted by Kim:
My Dad's best advice that I didn't take..."just marry a rich old man with a weak heart".

Citizen can tell us what to post because it's how he feels; that's how this works, IMHO.

[citizen]

I never said you didn't have a right to post your opinions. In fact, that's exactly what I was doing here.. just posting an opinion. You find it tacky for her to sell the photos. I find it tacky to start talking crap on someone that just died. We don't even know that she sold the photos in the first place. Like monkey said, it could have been one of her people. Go ahead and resume the bashing of the deceased. Don't let me stand in your way of a good time. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/comp26.gif

[Yosemite_Wolf]

Ok ok.. can we quit the bashing... of AnnaNicole AND of fellow Forums members? This horse is dead......

[Dee]

Amen!Originally posted by Yosemite_Wolf:
Ok ok.. can we quit the bashing... of AnnaNicole AND of fellow Forums members? This horse is dead......

[citizen]

It was never my intent to bash forum members. Like you, I was merely trying to express an opinion that I have. Don't let your panties get in a wad now Ms. Wolf.

[Kim]

Now that panties are brought up in an Anna Nicole topic, the fun can really begin!!

[Keith]

Auh - Wolffie, that wasn't a double meanning , was it? http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/rolleyes2.gif

My only reason to post on this is that I see Howard K. Stern " Attorney at law" http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/mask.gif not able to look anybody or any camera straight in the eye http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/disappointed.gif.

Howard was present when a young man was found Dead http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/shocked.gif, and Howard was around when Anna Nicole was found dead http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/evil.gif.

Howard knows that 12 miles off shore is international waters and that a 32 foot boat with Anna, 5 month old daughter and himself are untouchable by any jurisdiction http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/greedy.gif.

Every picture I've seen of Howard, he has red circles around his eyes http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/evil.gif. Howard, in my opinion, had the magic potion that lead two people down a trail, he guided, to there deaths. Howard wasn't sober http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/freak.gif enough himself to monitor his prey and they ended up over doseing http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/cry.gif.

All Howard had to do was pick-up that 32 foot boat, get Anna aboard, sail/ motor to the Bahamas', pick up the baby girl, and make two last stops in the Bahamas'.
1. To the Off-shore bank account to empty it http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/greedy.gif.
2. To the last compound/ home they stayed in , to pick up the Balance of Methadone stored in the refer http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/bonk.gif.

Then it's shove off for a 3 hour tour , to Gilligans Island....In My Own Opinion...

Godspeed..to the "TWINS"

Howard...Karma Bits Hard... http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/evil.gif

[Patagoniamaniac]

http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/applause.gif
Well said Keith...My thoughts exactly...

[Yosemite_Wolf]

Originally posted by citizen:
It was never my intent to bash forum members. Like you, I was merely trying to express an opinion that I have. Don't let your panties get in a wad now Ms. Wolf.

Seems like you were the one with the knickers in a bunch Citizen. The rest were expressing their opinions too and got shot down. I am just asking for this thread to be closed. ITS TIME!

[Sandman]

I don't see any reason to close the thread. No rules have been broken, that I can see. Forums are here for healthy debate. We can't expect everyone to agree.

[simplicity]

Originally posted by beautiful_mess38:
Wolfie your so funny.........but, when I was a single mom and I had the chance to marry a 90 year old billionaire hell ya I'd do it, in a heartbeat man. I would just close my eyes and pretend he was Brad Pitt.


Yeah, but Brad Pitt supposedly doesn't shower.

Seriously, I'm happy to see someone has the honesty to say they'd do what Anna did, as in marry the old guy. Yes, for $$$.

Damn, here we have a single mom with an 8th grade education, being offered more $$$$ daily than she'd probably seen in her life so far.

So what exactly did she do wrong? He proposed, she accepted. She did the right thing. The respectable thing. She coulda chosen to be kept & live in sin with this guy.

We all know she was unstable, all we need to do to see that is to watch some of her videos and appearance tapes. She needed help, and in my opinion, all she received from family and those that said they were her friends was unhealthy advice and money grabbing attitudes.

She needed to be guided through life decisions, not encouraged to be a self mocking icon. (remember the Anna Nicole show?) We all laughed, thought she was pathetic, and went on with our perfect lives. Those who could have changed her patterns, didn't. They sat around and were parasites on her fame.

So, now she's gone and we all sit in judgement, looking down our noses at her and her choices. Maybe a lesson can be learned from this tragedy. Watch over our own children and educate them.

Rest In Peace Vickie Lynn. They can't take anymore from you.

[citizen]

Very well put simplicity.

[frmmts2sea]

I totally agree with simplicity & "citizen" You craack me up.ur gr8

[Yosemite_Wolf]

sorry.. never watched the AnnaNicole show.. it was degrading and insulting to AnnaNicole. So I never laughed at her there. Just thought she was selfish....

[Sandman]

Before making judgment on a person, I try to remember that everyone's life is different and I was not put here to judge. I can only worry about my own life and learn from others. I am not perfect, but I do know what I want to be and make an effort to walk that path.

[Dodgergirl]

I read this on cityrag & it sorta sums it up for me...

Anna Nicole Smith's life was filled with tragedy and hardship and yet there's was something so wonderful and joyous about her. She was beautiful and silly and the world will be less fun without her.

[Kim]

That's true, Sandman. But part of learning from others is evaluating and judging their actions.
It's a fine line, though, between judging someone's behaviour (and I think that this is a necessary part of growing up; to have what you do be owned by you) and judging the person. I try to not do the latter but it was difficult with her because her life was so outrageous and full of poor choices. It gets frustrating for me personally to see someone who's so bright and have so much potential just throw it all away.

[citizen]

Originally posted by Kim:
It gets frustrating for me personally to see someone who's so bright and have so much potential just throw it all away.

Wow. That is quite different than saying she is a waste of skin. Not trying to be rude. I'm just trying to understand your thought process.

[MadScot]

Same basic message. waste = throw it all away

[Kim]

Originally posted by citizen:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kim:
It gets frustrating for me personally to see someone who's so bright and have so much potential just throw it all away.

Wow. That is quite different than saying she is a waste of skin. Not trying to be rude. I'm just trying to understand your thought process. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, what I said was that I came close to thinking that. I save the "waste of skin" conclusions for wife-beaters, KKK members; but coming close to thinking that about her shows my level of frustration with people who throw opportunities away.
This is how I know I need a vacation: when I make probably unfair judgements on healthy people's actions on behalf of all the sick young people who would kill for what the healthy people have thrown away.

[beautiful_mess38]

DNA shows Birkhead father of Smith baby By JESSICA ROBERTSON, Associated Press Writer
57 minutes ago



NASSAU, Bahamas - Larry Birkhead is the father of Anna Nicole Smith's baby, according to DNA tests, and the late reality TV star's former boyfriend emerged from a court hearing Tuesday to proclaim that his daughter would soon be his.

"I told you so!" Birkhead said as he jubilantly announced the DNA results after the closed hearing. Then he hugged his rival, Howard K. Stern. Smith's lawyer-turned-companion has been caring for baby Dannielynn since her sudden death in February.

The hearing left unresolved who will have custody of the girl. Another custody hearing was scheduled for Friday.

Stern said he would not fight for custody.

"I'm obviously very disappointed but my feelings toward Dannielynn have not changed," Stern said, adding Birkhead can come to his Bahamas home to visit Dannielynn at any time.

A joyous Birkhead said, "My baby's going to be coming home pretty soon."

Even Smith's mother, Virgie Arthur, who had also sought custody, seemed appeased by the DNA results. "I'm happy that Dannielynn will know who her real father is," she said outside court.

An expert in genetic evidence said DNA analysis proved Birkhead is Dannielynn's father. Dr. Michael Baird, who analyzed the results of a March 21 DNA test, announced the results outside court. "Essentially, he's the biological father," Baird said.

Birkhead, a Los Angeles photographer, began seeking custody before Smith, 39, collapsed and died in a Florida hotel Feb. 8.

The baby, whose full name is Dannielynn Hope Marshall Stern, was born five months before her mother's death. She could inherit millions from the estate of Smith's late husband, J. Howard Marshall II. The former model had been fighting the Texas oil tycoon's family over his estimated $500 million fortune since his death in 1995.