Do you smoke cigarettes? [Archive] - Yosemite Area Forums

Newcomer

Jun 17, 2004, 06:07 AM

I hate Cigarette smoke. I think it stinks and that is one reason why I don't go to the Casino. Also as we know it can kill you and my lungs need all the help they can get anyways. I never let anyone smoke in our house, car boat ect. We moved into a condo once and the walls, celing and blinds were brown from smoke and we had to repaint & have the blinds ultrasonic cleaned and carpet replaced. It's amazing that just walking through the casino from one end to the other and out the other door how your clothes smell when you get home. My mom sokes like a chimney and sometimes I don't even want to go to visit her because of it.

TOT

Jun 17, 2004, 06:42 AM

i'm honestly not aware of tax dollars paying for most insurance (kaiser, blue cross, aetna, etc) -

http://oakhurstforums.com/icon/huh.gif estoy confusada

TOT

Jun 17, 2004, 06:42 AM

i'm honestly not aware of tax dollars paying for most insurance (kaiser, blue cross, aetna, etc) -

http://oakhurstforums.com/icon/huh.gif estoy confusada

Raider

Jun 17, 2004, 06:58 AM

Medicare and Medicaid just for starters. Not everyone has insurance,but still someone "The taxe payers"have to pay.

Patagoniamaniac

Jun 17, 2004, 08:27 AM

my mom died of Lung cancer...She was a closet smoker. She hardly ever smoked...6 months..19% survival rate. not worth it..I miss her... http://oakhurstforums.com/icon/sad2.gif

Mibrew

Jun 17, 2004, 11:33 AM

When I look over while driving and see adults smoking with there windows rolled up and children in the back seat, I just cant help and feel sorry for them, I think how unconsiderate these adults are for not caring about their kids or other kids health.... its a shame http://oakhurstforums.com/icon/no.gif

Mibrew

Jun 17, 2004, 11:37 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Newcomer:
one reason why I don't go to the Casino
It's amazing that just walking through the casino from one end to the other and out the other door how your clothes smell when you get home.

I feel the same way, even if you run to the non smoking casino area to play slots, you can still smell it on your clothes when you leave, I have even caught somkers smoking in that area, the wife has them removed by management http://oakhurstforums.com/icon/pleased.gif

motherof4

Jun 17, 2004, 12:25 PM

My whole family, in-laws and out-laws are smokers.My DH and I are not. The one thing I don't get is they know what it is doing to there bodys and the people they smoke around.I would vote on no smoking in cars or homes with small kids.Someone needs to stand up for the kids who can not.The cancer rate for kids is going up they need no help.IMHO

duke

Jun 17, 2004, 01:22 PM

I quit 8 years ago. Back then I could never picture myself without one and now I could never imagine myself with one. The old saying is true, I'm only one cigarette away from a pack a day. That fear keeps me honest. I'd hate all that hard work to go to waste. I must say when I see others smoking it looks pretty doggone silly!!

Goddesschyyld

Jun 17, 2004, 02:39 PM

When I was a kid my parents, grandparents and other family members smoked. We would go on road trips and I would be one of those kids in the back with the windows rolled up while everyone smoked. It was a miserable experience.

I've never smoked and don't want it around my kids.

MtnEagle

Jun 18, 2004, 11:37 AM

Well Mat, since you specifically called out Cigarettes...

No...

But I do occasionally smoke a good cuban(wannabe)...

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Everybody's going to hate me now...

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MtnEagle

Jun 18, 2004, 11:37 AM

CatdaBrat

Jun 24, 2004, 08:23 AM

I never smoked, but I believe others have the right to do so if they wish (unless their second-hand smoke is going to bother someone). I also believe in LOTS of health information about smoking being made available to the public, especially teens, so those considering smoking can make their decisions armed with the latest medical knowledge. I am just extra-glad that I do not have to go through "quitting" since I never started.

Mibrew

Jun 24, 2004, 01:48 PM

Be glad you didnt, ya might end up looking like your picture http://oakhurstforums.com/icon/wink2.gif

tocools

Jun 24, 2004, 03:15 PM

Well it looks like I am the only true smoker here. I like smoking and do not plan on stoping.

And if that bothers you get over it This is the USA and smoking is Legal

Newcomer

Jun 24, 2004, 03:28 PM

Tocools, You are a dying breed here in calif. No pun intended http://oakhurstforums.com/icon/grin2.gif

On second thought we are all dying, some soon some later....

Mibrew

Jun 24, 2004, 04:33 PM

I like living, and dont plan on starting...

Wasnt Dahmer, who said I like Killing and dont plan on stopping, or was that Hitler?

I think also lyle Alzado from the raiders also said I like Steriods, and I dont plan on stopping, when it was legal too.

Jimi

Jun 24, 2004, 05:35 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by tocools:
Well it looks like I am the only true smoker here. I like smoking and do not plan on stoping.

And if that bothers you get over it This is the USA and smoking is Legal <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well actually this is California and it isnt legal in a lot of places .... Resturants, Bars, elevators, office buildings, state buildings, Federal buildings, there are designated rooms in hotel rooms, Most lines, most amusement parks, soon some beaches and most public places are anti-smoking....

And I am very unlikely to approve of smoking around my kids... I have three who are asthmatic....and smoking near them causes me to have to take them to the Hospital.....

This is America you are right ... and you do have the right to smoke, as long as it does not affect my right to breath.....your rights are no stronger than my rights.... and your rights end when you hurt others....

So I have no problem with you smoking .... if you are considerate and move or stop if you are asked ....

This issue is as simple as this .... you may damage your health ... you will not damage my kid's ....

When any one wants .... ask me about my wife in Disneyworld ....

skybolt

Jun 25, 2004, 05:20 AM

I was one of the kids stuck in a smoke filled tomb on wheels. It sorta makes me paranoid to get in a vehicle if I don't know it's past history. That smell gives me an instant sick headache, yeah I probably need therapy. Facts are facts and the medical community and my personal experiences lead me to believe smoking is just not good for anyone. If you ever serviced air conditioning equipment,the residue deposited on the duct work and filters will make you think about what our lungs have to contend with. If you smoke, try to stop, your family and friends are going to miss you.

motherof4

Jun 25, 2004, 06:17 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> .... ask me about my wife in Disneyworld .... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I am asking?You just can't throw a hint of a story out there and not tell us. http://oakhurstforums.com/icon/grin2.gif

Jimi

Jun 25, 2004, 06:31 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by motherof4:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> .... ask me about my wife in Disneyworld .... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I am asking?You just can't throw a hint of a story out there and not tell us. http://oakhurstforums.com/icon/grin2.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well .... we were near an Undersea ride...the older kids wanted to see it real bad... we had been there since opening and every one was tired. My youngest was 6 months old... and we had 2 kids asleep in strollers..... and were sitting near a fountian... 3 women walked up ... there were plenty other places to sit ... and all lit up ... DisneyWorld had just implemented smoking areas .... way after DisneyLand had.

My wife walked up and explained that her on child had severe asthma and asked them to move or quit near the kids (all the smoke was passing our way.... they told her they had the right to smoke this is America and they had freedoms.... I went over and said that Disney has smoking areas and this is not one.... they Laughed and said they were from Texas and didnt need to follow Florida's silly rules...

I went to a person working in the park and asked them to please help... they said that since it is a new rule they dont always enforce it ....and was to busy to help....she went on to say that in her opinion it was just smoke....

My wife said so you wont help with this disgusting thing ?? She said no .... my wife said ... well I guess disguting things can't be helped. So if I were to like take a big drink of water and choke and spit it up ... you couldnt do a thing right ??? The Disney person said no ... and so my wife did it on their cigarettes .... they moved....

Jimi

Jun 25, 2004, 06:55 AM

And the next year we were standing in line at Pirates in DisneyLand.... a couple were smoking ... the smoke was blowing in her face. They laughed and said "make me" then flicked a but at her.... my wife reported it to a attendant who did nothing ... then to a manager who asked them to quit... when they found out about the whole event ... the couple was asked to leave Disney and the attendant was fired ....

Guess smoking isnt "legal" everywhere in the US ...

Oh and don't mess with my wife ... lol

Surfus

Jun 25, 2004, 07:04 AM

I like her already

motherof4

Jun 25, 2004, 11:59 AM

You go girl! I like her. I go to Disney bout once a week now that we are down here. And lest once a month I am involved in something like this.Just wed I told a elderly man where the smoking sec is.I try to do this as nicely as possible.It does seem to me that allot of CM don't seem to care and let people do what they want.But I have seen a few have to get in the face of someone and call security.oh well I still love going.

MtnEagle

Jun 26, 2004, 04:56 PM

Surfus:

Don't you have a "Conflict of Interest" then by selling Wood Stoves?

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Jimi

Jun 26, 2004, 06:44 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by MtnEagle:
Surfus:

Don't you have a "Conflict of Interest" then by selling Wood Stoves?

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so he cant like my wife and sell wood stoves ??? LOL http://oakhurstforums.com/icon/sneaky.gif

Surfus

Jun 26, 2004, 06:58 PM

I sell Clean burning woodstoves.
kind of like smoking ULTRAlites

Mysteefied

Jun 26, 2004, 08:57 PM

I smoked for 13 years, started at the age of 13, I was stupid and didn't know any better at the time.
As I got older, I knew better, yet felt like it was my right. I figured since I didn't smoke in the house, it wouldnt affect my children either.

At the age of 5, my oldest daughter had to have surgery to put tubes in her ears,due to constant ear infections and hearing problems from it, the doctor told me that my smokeing didn't help the situation at all! I figured it wasnt me, it had to be my EX husband who smoked in his house, I NEVER smoked in the house. Well, a year later, she had to go through the surgery again and we were both told that she was having some very adverse reactions to the cigarrette smoke. I explained to the doctor that I never smoked in the house and that her dad did.

The doctor put me in my place: he told me how by my smoking...even outdoors, the smoke gets on my clothing, I would carry it into the house on my clothes, sit on the couch, or lean against the counter, Lie the the kids bed to read to them, and all of those things would have the smoke transfered from my clothes, so it was really no different than if I had smoked inside. WOW! it was really a wake up call to me, My children are my world.
I started really thinking and then, Just quit 10 years ago. I can't believe to this day that I ever smoked, It is not something that seems like me.
I also am not sure why people who smoke seem to have defensive attitudes a lot of the time, like they know they are doing something hurtful to themselves and others and feel the need to explain why they have the right to do it.
When I did smoke, I was polite and put out my cigarette if someone asked, or if children were around, and I would have NEVER thought of lighting one up at an amusement park, or place of family gatherings.
(Jumping down from the soapbox now)
~C~

Sandman

Aug 13, 2004, 06:45 AM

If you smoke, please try to quit... especially if you have children. It has been very hard to watch my Mom deal with loosing her Mother... and I lost a Grandmother. I thanked my Mother for quitting when I was young. When I was about 5 years old, I walked up to my Mother and Grandmother (Dad's Mom) and told them that I loved them very much and didn't want them to die from smoking. Smart five year old, huh? Anyway, they both quit that week. I am so grateful that they did. As result, my Grandma (Dad's Mom) stopped early enough to make her the healthy person she is today. I expect her to live into the triple digits. http://oakhurstforums.com/icon/wink2.gif

The problem is... I told the same thing to my other Grandma (Mom's Mom), but she didn't take the advise until it was too late. It was hard to watch my Grandmother suffer and it was hard to watch my Mom have to deal with it. I'm glad I will not have to go through that with my Mom.

Please quit smoking so that your children do not have to watch you suffer.

Barry

Aug 13, 2004, 03:06 PM

I quit 18 years ago, and regret ever starting. I know that if I hadn't stopped then I wouldn't be alive now, and even though I quit it still caught up with me 2 years ago when I was rushed into hospital with breathing problems and spent 3 months there resulting in major heart surgery for a bypass and mechanical valve to replace a damaged one. It probably wasn't smoking alone, a combination of that and junk food, and I am diabetic, but it's certainly made me think and know that if I had my life to live over again there are many changes I would make.

bluejean

Aug 15, 2004, 07:33 PM

i used to smoke, and i enjoyed it, now i eat...and eat....and eat. it must be that hand to mouth thing, or that addiction thing...
after i quit, i would smoke when i was around smokers, borrowing theirs [why do smokers always share, even with cigs getting so expencive ?]
i finally had to stop smoking, because of all the chemicals in the tobaco, when i became extremly chemically intolerant, and noticed how sick cigs were making me. one cig, and i would wake up with a hangover, later, i would immediatly get a head ache, not able to finish the cig
i can, on the other hand, smoke organic tobacco, very rare, and expencive. so i eat... and eat...

Sandman

Aug 15, 2004, 07:43 PM

Welcome to the forums bluejean. I awarded you the extra 100 karma points to get you started since I know you. Karma points are awarded when you post and do goo things http://oakhurstforums.com/icon/wink2.gif A higher karma ranking gets you a higher karma title next to your avatar in each of your posts. Enjoy!

Peppermint Patti

Aug 15, 2004, 09:16 PM

Yes Welcome Bluejean!
I started smoking as a teen and smoked for 25 years. Thankfully not heavy-maybe 1/2 a pack a day but for years that was my excuse-"I don't smoke very much....just a bit...hardly any...
I finally quit after much nagging from my kid and finally from my boyfriend (now my hubby) Neither of us can imagine going back but I must admit it feels strange to sit at a bar and not light up. That's were the craving comes back worse!
So we only hit the Pines a couple times a year! http://oakhurstforums.com/icon/wink2.gif

Barry

Aug 16, 2004, 02:38 AM

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bluejean

Aug 17, 2004, 08:12 AM

thanks, i can use all the karma i can come by, even if it is electronic. i added to my profile, incase you, or anyone else, wants to know a little more about me...even added my birthdate !

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Sandman:
Welcome to the forums bluejean. I awarded you the extra 100 karma points to get you started since I know you. Karma points are awarded when you post and do goo things http://oakhurstforums.com/icon/wink2.gif A higher karma ranking gets you a higher karma title next to your avatar in each of your posts. Enjoy! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

SheilaMae

Aug 28, 2004, 06:19 PM

I don't mean to resurrect a dead topic, but I'm still exploring stuff - and I do smoke cigarettes and I don't see me quitting anytime soon. I didn't start until I was over 40 and I never ever imagined I would ever be a smoker. I grew up in a house full of smokers and was disgusted by it on numerous levels. About 4 yrs ago on a day when something "SNAPPED" in response to one of those last drops that finally sunk the shipwreck that was my marriage I got off the phone from my ex in such a heated fury that I was shaking (and I am the most non-angry person in the world as a rule) and in rapidfire succession the thought that I 'could' get a REALLY STRONG adult beverage but I couldn't drive or work, I wasn't prepared to high tail it and run....would SOMEBODY PLEASE GIVE ME A CIGARETTE!?!?!? THAT was my first puff in my life and I've smoked since. I'd rather be in therapy but can't afford it and THAT is my sad, but true story.
-Sheila

bluejean

Sep 02, 2004, 06:56 PM

i am not allergic to smoke. i have been over saturated with chemicals, now i am so intolerant to chemicals of every kind, i am home bound, with liver damage, nervous system damage, respitory problems, immune system problems, severe migrains, fibromyalgia, ect, ect, ect... do you have any idea what is is like to have the flue 2-3 months, and never being truely healthy ? smoke doesn't bother me at all, the recent fires have had little affect on me, but, cigarrettes are loaded with more chemicals than you can count. smog botheres me alot, the thicker it is, the worse i get. pay attention or try doing a little homework befor your insencitivity embarasses you...or worse.

i tried to work with this health issue, i even whent back to school and got a new occupation, then i became self employed, over a fifteen year period, i had that backbone, and tried all kinds of medication, herbs, detox programs, counceling, hypnosis, lifestyle changes, air filters, and on and on and on, still, it nearly killed me. there is a thin line between back bone, and denial.
how about a little common scence ? chemicals can harm human beings, and alot of the damage is irreversable. duh.
attitudes like yours is why this problem is not being addressed, and why people like me have no choice but to leave the work force, and most other aspects of daily life.
i don't like being disabled. i loved my occupation, and took alot of pride being a succesful buisness for almost 15 years, in this town especially !

MadScot

Sep 02, 2004, 08:30 PM

My body is very intolerent of many chemicals I could never work in an office with people who use perfumes/colognes. It's going to become a more common topic in the near future. We are all being poisoned. People complain about second hand smoke. Well what about second hand chemicals from perfumes. It's instant headache for me. It's so ironic that we use toxic cleaners that damage our immune system to kill germs and we buy into it.

Yosemite_Wolf

Sep 02, 2004, 11:52 PM

i find it wierd that ppl work in hospitals and come into work saturated in perfumes and cigarette smoke. the only scent i ever wear to work is perhaps a dab of orange blossom oil.

Yosemite_Wolf

Sep 02, 2004, 11:52 PM

i find it wierd that ppl work in hospitals and come into work saturated in perfumes and cigarette smoke. the only scent i ever wear to work is perhaps a dab of orange blossom oil.

Mibrew

Sep 03, 2004, 02:41 AM

Most People that smoke dont even realize that they smell, no matter how much perfume or mints to cover it up.

Yosemite_Wolf

Sep 03, 2004, 03:10 AM

so true Mibrew... i put on a bit of orange blossum...and go to work... i hate when ppl slather on the cologue. and i dont even smoke

Dodgergirl

Sep 03, 2004, 06:08 AM

One of my saddest experiences was when a little preschooler in my class came in one morning (she was a beautiful little girl, with long white blonde hair) and sat down next to me on the rug. As I leaned over to help her with something (a puzzle, I think) I smelled the most disgusting odor coming from her. It was stale smoke. yuck. The next morning I watched as she pulled up with her Dad, they were in his work truck with the windows up and Dad puffing smoke. I did talk to him & he never even realized the harm he was doing.
Yes, I'm an ex smoker, yes, I used to smoke in my car, (I didn't believe in smoking in the house) and I'm really glad I quit. (1987)
BUT, do I crave a smoke occasionally? Uh, Yeah. Especially during weeks like this one, I've been hit so many different ways I'm not sure what way to go. Now I understand why Jimi was on line so much a couple weeks ago when he went through his crisis, I'm doing the same thing this week. Mat, maybe you should start a Therapy thread. http://oakhurstforums.com/icon/freak.gif

bluejean

Sep 03, 2004, 11:38 AM

orange blossum oil, is it all natural or mixed with synthetics/petroleum ? that seems to distinguish wheather or not i can tolerate it. old spice original aftershave is o.k., but all there other products are out. patchuli, andamber are alright, but extremly concentrated, most people wear to much
whant to continue this line of discussion ? go to general topic 'chemical intolerance'

Grinch's Unicorn

Mar 10, 2005, 02:32 PM

Originally posted by Surfus:
I seen on the news they want to pass a law that you can not smoke in a car if a kid under the age of 6 in in the car with you.

I do not like Smoke but our rights are being taken away.
Places we can not smoke:
first Public building
then it was Bars.
Now LA beaches
soon Cars.

I agree that you shouldn't smoke in a car with a child. My father smoked around me all the time and I ended up with asthma and never outgrew it. I can't see doing that to an innocent child, it's so expensive nowadays to pay for the medication or the insurance to cover the medication, treatments, and ER visits.

Now don't take this the wrong way, but I'm a smoker, too (makes sense with asthma, right?), but I've found that most childrens ailments occur within the first 6 months (and up to 6 years, I think).

Sandman

Mar 10, 2005, 02:49 PM

Originally posted by Patagoniamaniac:
my mom died of Lung cancer...She was a closet smoker. She hardly ever smoked...6 months..19% survival rate. not worth it..I miss her... http://oakhurstforums.com/icon/sad420.gif

I am sorry Patagonia... I miss my Grandmother that past away last August. http://oakhurstforums.com/icon/sad420.gif She couldn't breath anymore. http://oakhurstforums.com/icon/shame.gif

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Yosemite Joy

Mar 10, 2005, 02:55 PM

That is awful for both of you.

I wish that my ex-husband would quit smoking. He stinks up my children, and it is such a gross thing to do. Some people just can not stop though, for various reasons. You hear about people who smoke with their tracheotomy...

I am so glad that I am smoke-free.

Californee Girl

Mar 10, 2005, 04:12 PM

take THAT Big Tobacco! (http://www.livejournal.com/users/californi_girl/642.html?mode=reply)

Hey how does one get html priviledges around here??

Mibrew

Mar 10, 2005, 06:04 PM

Good for you Cal Girl... http://oakhurstforums.com/icon/yes.gif

concerned

Mar 10, 2005, 06:38 PM

I am a smoker who would like to quit. I am trying to do so but in the meantime I smoke only at home or at the home of someone who smokes and then we go out doors to do it. I do not carry cigarettes with me. I presently smoke abot 3/4 pack a day.

Californee Girl

Mar 10, 2005, 08:33 PM

http://oakhurstforums.com/icon/stretch.gif You can do eet! http://oakhurstforums.com/icon/stretch.gif

BichonLover

Mar 11, 2005, 04:18 AM

I smoked from the age of 15 to 33 starting out sneaking cigarettes so my parents wouldn't find out (yeah, right, like they couldn't smell the smoke on me :O) What an idiot I was!)

Anyhow, I managed to get myself up to over a pack a day and really felt like I wasn't going to make it to my next birthday of 34 between constantly breathing smoke and LA smog! Oh, boy, was I disgusted with myself.

I knew I wanted to quit, but no amount of someone telling me to quit or embarassment could make me do it until I was ready to in my own mind.

Luckily for me, I met a wonderful man, now my husband, who didn't smoke. I told myself there was no way I was going to bring cigarettes with me into this relationship so I wouldn't smoke around him. By the time we married, I was able to quit completely. I made the turn in my mind about really being able to kick the habit.

It's been 10 years since quitting, and I've never touched one since. Perfume used to be my best friend, too, but now I only use a little dab now and then.

There is nothing better in this world than the scent of just clean freshness. I wish I could bottle this up and sell it. I know I'd be rich!

BE KIND TO YOURSELF AND QUIT SMOKING

49er

Mar 11, 2005, 08:10 AM

I started smoking in High School before legal age as most young people do when experimenting with Cigarette smoking...
I quit after High School during a brain storm.
I honestly asked myself why I had to smoke.
Was it becouse of stress or addiction?
Im understand both are a cause for why most people smoke. But looking at myself and realizing that I was paying for something that harms my body. Makes me ill. Why should I pay for that when the air I breath is harmful anyway...I do know that the first puff of a smoke feels great, but that feeling fades after awile and is replaced by dependency.
I don't condemn people who do smoke, and I am not going to preach that you should quit. I am saying that it is not for me...
Thats my two cents on the matter. http://oakhurstforums.com/icon/stretch.gif